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Indian Small Arms Thread

Discussion in 'Tactical Hardware' started by Gessler, May 20, 2017.

  1. bharathp

    bharathp Developers Guild IDF NewBie

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    then how did they fail a rifle?
    so get OFB's prodcuts - (agreed it must be bad) - test them, and no matter how they perform,fail them, based on specs imagined in their minds.

    no engineer will build something without specs in the first place. what am I building? what should it do? is the first question an engineer would ask.
    and then the engineer will test it against those benchmarks before giving it over to the user.

    what sort of a circus is this? the OFB created a rifle out of thin air (no specs from army - so they made up the specs then)- and gives it to army who says it fails because it dint live up to specs that they dont have yet. well then - why dint you give those specs BEFORE these OFB wala's started making their damn gun?

    OFB happy (they got to make the rifle in the first place - shitty as it may be), army happy (they still get to order foreign maal). OFB claims they made a gun based on their perception of specs.

    for the amount of money that will go nto this order - you can probably buy off a few elite engineers and build the damn rifle at home.
     
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    From INDRA Networks: The Assam Rifles have also started receiving the FAB Defense AK modernization kit. It's good to see Army counter-insurgency units learning from each other and adopting similar equipment, unless the whole thing is a completely MoD/Army HQ-overseen affair (in which case it's also good).

    Also note that this Kalashnikov also has the magazine with a slit-window (could be the Ultimag AK30R from the same company, though some finer details appear missing), which didn't show up on the previously seen RR-operated FAB mods.

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    P.S. I do wish our forces make it a point to practice absolute trigger discipline even while posing for candid shots.

    @Abingdonboy @randomradio @PARIKRAMA @MilSpec @Agent_47 @Hellfire @Levina @GSLV Mk III
     
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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    Is there any actual indicaton that any of this is an offical effort to update the equipment of the CT units or is this induviduals soldiers updating their kit out of their own pocket as we have seen(but to a lesser degree) in the past?

    I would be happy to hear the IA/MoD had opened their eyes to the reality of after-market imrovements to their equipment.
     
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    From what @MilSpec previously opinionated, it's very much possible that this is just the individual/unit-level procurement - however with Assam Rifles (AR) also adopting it, it seems (or at least I'd like to believe) that there is some level of coordination going on between the various units.

    I've also learnt from INDRA that at least a third of AR AKs are being modded - and it could increase from there. I'd say that points toward a somewhat high-level bulk order of this equipment.
     
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    This level of ad-hocism is most frustrating, bits and peices here and there, no real order or objective.

    Just highlights once again how broken the entire planning-procurement-deployment cycle is within the IA.
     
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    bharathp Developers Guild IDF NewBie

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    most probably a result of funds being disbursed in piece meal towards procurement of such high number of weapons (small arms). along with the various pockets the meager funds have to line before eventually making it to the beleaguered jawan holding a broken rifle to protect an infested motherland with nothing but pride. pity!
     
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    Whoa, the build quality of this rifle looks amazing, a HUGE step above any INSAS variant seen so far.

    + amazing to see such a decent buttstock on a OFB designed product!


    If the IA truly does find a way of scuppering a deal to buy this rifle those responsible for the call will deserve to hang.
     
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    The buttstock is from our trusted friend FAB Defense :tongue: The design is the GLR-16 and I've seen this type (side folding ones) in use with SA58s.

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    I agree. This video made me fall in love with the OFB 7.62 rifle.
     
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    They should be working with them instant of rejecting it in one go. SandeepU said MCIWS was closed like a year ago.
     
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    So is this the Ghaatak which has been selected? What about the RFI then?
     

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