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Indian Students Rank 2nd Last In Global Test

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  1. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    NEW DELHI – School students celebrate after checking their CBSE results. A global survey has found that the average 15-year-old Indian is over 200 points behind the global topper.

    MUMBAI: Across the world, India is seen as an education powerhouse – based largely on the reputation of a few islands of academic excellence such as the IITs. But scratch the glossy surface of our education system and the picture turns seriously bleak.

    Fifteen-year-old Indians who were put, for the first time, on a global stage stood second to last, only beating Kyrgyzstan when tested on their reading, math and science abilities.

    India ranked second last among the 73 countries that participated in the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), conducted annually to evaluate education systems worldwide by the OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) Secretariat. The survey is based on two-hour tests that half a million students are put through.

    China’s Shanghai province, which participated in PISA for the first time, scored the highest in reading. It also topped the charts in mathematics and science.

    “More than one-quarter of Shanghai’s 15 year olds demonstrated advanced mathematical thinking skills to solve complex problems, compared to an OECD average of just 3%,” noted the analysis.

    The states of Tamil Nadu and Himachal Pradesh, showpieces for education and development, were selected by the central government to participate in PISA, but their test results were damning.

    15-yr-old Indians 200 points behind global topper

    Tamil Nadu and Himachal, showpieces of India’s education and development, fared miserably at the Programme for International Student Asssment, conducted by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Secretariat.

    An analysis of the performance of the two states showed:

    In math, considered India’s strong point, they finished second and third to last, beating only Kyrgyzstan

    When the Indian students were asked to read English text, again Tamil Nadu and Himachal Pradesh were better than only Kyrgyzstan. Girls were better than boys

    The science results were the worst. Himachal Pradesh stood last, this time behind Kyrgyzstan. Tamil Nadu was slightly better and finished third from the bottom

    The average 15-year-old Indian is over 200 points behind the global topper. Comparing scores, experts estimate that an Indian eighth grader is at the level of a South Korean third grader in math abilities or a second-year student from Shanghai when it comes to reading skills.

    The report said: “In Himachal, 11% of students are estimated to have a proficiency in reading literacy that is at or above the baseline level needed to participate effectively and productively in life. It follows that 89% of students in Himachal are estimated to be below that baseline level.”

    Clearly, India will have to ramp up its efforts and get serious about what goes on in its schools. “Better educational outcomes are a strong predictor for future economic growth,” OECD secretary-general Angel Gurria told The Times of India.

    “While national income and educational achievement are still related, PISA shows that two countries with similar levels of prosperity can produce very different results. This shows that an image of a world divided neatly into rich and well-educated countries and poor and badly-educated countries is now out of date.”

    In case of scientific literacy levels in TN, students were estimated to have a mean score that was below the means of all OECD countries, but better than Himachal. Experts are unsure if selecting these two states was a good idea.

    Shaheen Mistry, CEO of Teach For India programme, said, “I am glad that now there is data that lets people know how far we still have to go.”

    USA not so good either.. U.S. ranked 14th in reading, 17th in science and 25th in math.
     
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  2. chachachoudhary

    chachachoudhary Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    WHAT????? WE ARE DOOOMED!!!!! :cry:
     
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  3. Skull and Bones

    Skull and Bones Doctor Death Staff Member MODERATOR

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    It'll be wrong to interpret Intellect of Average Indians from the result of ICSE or CBSE, as majority (read more than 80%) of them studies in the regional boards.
     
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  4. uptotrix

    uptotrix Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Comes as no surprise, since most people here want a chowderhead for a PM.
     
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  5. ManuSankar

    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Honestly,the crappy result doesn't surprise me.Here is a Hindu report

    Indian students fare poorly in international evaluation test

    Do our teeth become cleaner and cleaner the longer and harder we brush them? This was followed by two small paragraphs on how to brush your teeth quoting an expert on tooth brushing.

    Only 53 per cent students from Himachal Pradesh and 63 per cent from Tamil Nadu were able to answer correctly during the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) 2009 plus exams held last year by the Australian Council for Educational Research (ACER) where India participated for the first time as an additional participant. Himachal Pradesh and Tamil Nadu are among the best performing States in the country but even then very few 15-year-olds could fully understand these two simple paragraphs.

    This was an example of a simple reading item administered in PISA 2009 where girls significantly outperformed boys. This was in line with the results where Indian students remained at the bottom with only Kyrgyztan performing worse.

    But in a comparison between the two States, students in Tamil Nadu attained an average score on the PISA reading literacy scale, significantly higher than those for Himachal Pradesh. As against 17 per cent of students in Tamil Nadu who had proficiency in reading literacy to participate effectively and productively in life, only 11 per cent children in Himachal Pradesh fell in this category

    Students in Himachal Pradesh and Tamil Nadu attained a statistically same average score on the mathematical literacy scale with 12 and 15 per cent respectively of students proficient in mathematics at least to the baseline level at which they begin to demonstrate the kind of skills that enable them to use mathematics in ways that are considered fundamental for their future development.

    In Tamil Nadu, there was a statistically significant gender difference in scientific literacy in favour of girls as compared to Himachal Pradesh, even though 84 per cent students in Tamil Nadu were not proficient enough in science at which they begin to demonstrate the science competencies that would enable them to participate actively in life situations related to science and technology.
    “Girls not only tended to attain higher reading scores than boys, they were also more aware of strategies for understanding, remembering and summarising information,” according to Professor Geoff Masters, CEO of ACER.

    The OECD-PISA is an international comparative survey of 15-year-olds' knowledge and skills in reading, mathematical and scientific literacy. PISA seeks to measure how well young adults have acquired the knowledge and skills that are required to function as successful members of society.

    A major goal of PISA is to untangle the factors that are associated with educational outcomes and to guide governments in constructing policies that improve these outcomes.

    Background questionnaire

    As part of the PISA 2009 survey, students completed an assessment on reading literacy, mathematical literacy and scientific literacy, as well as an extensive background questionnaire. School principals also completed a survey describing the context of education at their school, including the level of resources in the school and qualifications of staff.

    School level factors

    “Students, who are highly aware of effective strategies for learning and also regularly read a wide range of material, tend to demonstrate better reading proficiency than those who either have a lower awareness of effective strategies or read a narrower range of materials regularly.” Professor Masters said, adding that while school level factors account for a considerable proportion of variation in reading performance between schools, much of this is associated with socio—economic and demographic factors.

    “This suggests that policies around governance, accountability, the investment of educational resources and the overall learning environment are influenced by the social and demographic intake of the school,” Professor Masters said.
     
  6. Shreeram

    Shreeram 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    This report is a joke! I am sorry America 14th and India 74th? I am shocked and this is impossible!

    Chk this!! We beat the world in a NASA competition there were 10 from MY SCHOOL..! We beat everyone including the US! See -

    http://www.today.in/education/bisho...ners-space-settlement-design-competition-2011

    [​IMG]

    Please Aussies try to put us down always to prevent the Indians from coming in to Australia and dominating this is pure Aussie propaganda.. They try to put us down always..!

    My Brother is a Dentist in Australia.. He is the only MDS in the most famous clinc in Melbourne..! Every-time a government servant comes to the clinic he says to him convert to become Christian or I'll Blacklist.. U! Racism is high there! Please dont try to put us down..
     
  7. ManuSankar

    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Common,not every school in our country has same privileges.Go to any public schools then you will understand.
     
  8. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    UP state board is the big problem.

    Plus the rise of madrassas.
     
  9. tilopa

    tilopa Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Yes if of a substantial part of population which we call minority has a substantial part which studies in madarsa then you can't expect bright students coming out!
    Then they will effect their society and most probably they will send their own children to the madarsa thus spreading the plague from one generation to another.

    The madarsa should be banned and i am not just making an emotional statement but a fact.
    Suppose if in a book newton's law is wrongly described then we may ban the book for prescribing them in schools because it is playing with children's intelligence.
    So are the madarsas,they teach psedu-science,irrational thinking and bigotry and the net result of that education has no effect because all the children do is repeat parrot like some 7th century revelations and laws thus totally destroying the intelligence of child who is left with an uncritical mind after madarsa education.
    This in a way harms the economy and society as they can't contribute as a skilled labor and then they go around spreading the nonsene what they have learnt to other peoples thus harming the society and the country at large.

    Clearly madarsa should be banned.
     
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    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    What does Madrassas has to do with PISA test.
     
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  11. Ishmael

    Ishmael FULL MEMBER

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    What I find funny is when my wife's company went looking for Database administrators the only qualified applicants were from India and Israel. 90% of US applicants not qualified. Maybe there were no applicants from China.

    What ever India is doing in education keep it up.
     
  12. BlueOval

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    If you pick up students from Poorly resourced Government schools for these kind of tests you will get these results.......ask the testers to pick up students from Good institutions these American and European toppers will be running for cover.... these kind of studies are carried out by NGOs funded by western countries...and they have to make sure that they do these kind of botched up surveys to keep money flowing in the name of poor education systems....
     
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  13. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    So you are of the opinion they tested half million students in 92 countries just to make India look bad. :frust: Why didnt I think of that?:frust:
     
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    Do you know the parameters used to pick up students... My guess is no...

    And tell me if India students are so bad...why the hell is Mr Obama asking American students to become at par with Indian and Chinese students...
     
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    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I am just the messenger. Maybe Obama dont know how bad India students are doing.
     
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