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India's first manned space flight trial in 2015

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  1. Abhyuday Pratap Singh

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    India's first manned space flight trial in 2015​


    The first flight of ISRO's new and powerful rocket that will be able to carry an Indian to space, is expected to take place by the middle of 2015.

    Known as the Geostationary satellite launch vehicle (GSLV) Mark-III, this is the heavy-duty rocket, which Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) will use to send an Indian astronaut to the space. Doing the same with commercial foreign rockets, would be very expensive.

    “GSLV Mk-III will have a payload of 6-10 tonnes and can take an Indian astronaut to a low earth orbit,â€￾ ISRO chairman K Radhakrishnan said at the Indian National Science Academy here on Tuesday.

    “For comparison, Chandrayan-I weighs only 1.8 tonnes. Such kind of up-scaling in rocket's capability is needed. The cost for such a mission will be very high,â€￾ he said.
    But a manned space flight to a low earth orbit (upwards of 160 km to few hundreds of km) is on the space agency's radar. Except USA'a Apollo missions to moon, all other manned space flights took place in these zones. The international space station moves at an altitude between 330 and 435 km.

    However, because of a series of failure in the GSLV flights, space scientists have now planned to do an experimental test flight of the GSLV Mk-III in, January 2014 without the crucial cryogenic upper stage, which is being developed indigenously.
    The experimental flight will have a full-fledged GSLV with strap on boosters without the cryogenic engine.

    It will fly up to an altitude of 120 km after which it will take a parabolic path and dive in the Bay of Bengal.

    The flight will generate crucial aerodynamics data which ISRO scientists will use while designing the rocket for first manned space flight.

    “We have received permissions from the government for two developmental flights of GSLV with indigenous cryogenic engine. The first developmental flight is expected in 18 months after the experimental flight in January, 2014,â€￾ said S Somnath, project director of GSLV Mk-III programme at Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre, Thiruvananthapuram.

    The indigenous cryogenic engine, which failed in its first flight in 2010, will now be put to test again in July, when an older generation GSLV (Mk-II) is scheduled to be launched. Capable of carrying a payload up to 2.5 tonnes, GSLV Mk-II can reduce India's reliance on French ArianeSpace rockets to take INSAT class satellites to the 36,000 km orbit.

    “GLSV Mk-III has a completely different architecture than Mk-II. It carries twice as much fuel and the thrust is double than that of Mk-II. We need both versions of GSLV to save our foreign exchange,â€￾ Somnath told Deccan Herald.
     
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  2. Himanshu Pandey

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    that would be a hell of achievement once we achieve it.
     
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    wow that's gr8 :shocked:
     
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    It is high time we explore space. We are lagging badly compared to our eastern neighbor in this front.
     
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    We gonna definitely achieve it by the year 2018 ~~~~~and if this shit government departs in 2014 this can be achieved even before that for in 2007 ISRO's target was to achieve this goal by the year 2015-16 and accordingly the Space Capsule Recovery Experiment (SRE-1) was conducted on January 10, 2007 which was the first step in this regard but due to no allocation of funds in the 12th five year plan (2012-2017) prepared by this UPA government, the project is being delayed.
     
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    Great news, but we shouldn't rush things, especially this manned mission; human life is also involved and any setback during the mission will be detrimental for us, so I am for ISRO taking it's time & undertake this mission when they are well prepared & ready; I'm sure ISRO will succeed & make us proud. :cheers:
     
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    They are not rushing things as such but due to lack of funds this project is being delayed :sad:
     
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    Any source for this, I thought the funds were cleared in 2009.
     
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    The recent reports indicate that the human spaceflight may be after 2017, on a GSLV-Mk III, as the venture is not part of the governments 12th five-year plan (2012–2017). There is no time frame set for this mission as of now, with scientists admitting in private it may not happen in this decade, as ISRO does not have a human-rated launch vehicle and there is a budgetary constraints from the Government.

    But with the latest developments, I think so by 2018 we would be in a comfortable position to do so but not at all before 2017 unless any changes in the current 5 year plan is made which I think is not possible :sad:
     
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    A manned mission into space would require about Rs. 124 billion (US$2.1 billion) and a period of seven years.
    Planning Commission estimated that a budget of 50 billion (US$860.0 million) is required for initial work on the manned mission during the eleventh five-year plan (2007–12) and even In February 2009 the Government of India gave the green light for the manned space flight programme (but i dont think so funds were fully allocated), due to launch in 2016. but the economic conditions of the country didnt favoured the same afterwards, therefore it was called off
     
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    Please provide the source for the fund cuts, I need to know about it!!
     
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    India will not undertake a human space flight before the year 2017 and is likely to use a next-generation rocket for the ambitious mission, the cost of which would be reworked, Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation, K Radhakrishnan said.

    Radhakrishnan, also Department of Space Secretary and Space Commission Chairman, confirmed that the venture is not part of the 12th five-year plan (2012-2017) but said there are funds to continue with pre-project studies and develop critical technologies associated with the proposed mission.

    ISRO officials noted that the space agency currently does not have an operational GSLV, after two unsuccessful missions, one with Indian cryogenic engine and another with the imported Russian one in 2010.

    Radhakrishnan said GSLV with indigenous cryogenic engine and stage would be flight-tested in January-February next year.

    "If you look at the scenario today, we do not have a programme (human space flight) declared as such (yet to get Cabinet approval)", he told reporters in response to questions.

    ISRO's proposed human space flight programme was much talked about in the second half of the last decade but the twin-failures of the GSLV has saw to it that it lost momentum.

    In 2008-09, it was estimated that a sum of Rs 12,400 crore would be required for undertaking the mission. "We need to rework (on that figure)", Radhakrishnan said.

    GSLV-Mk II (rocket) was proposed to be used for the mission then, but Radhakrishnan today said it would be able to carry a two-member crew only, while GSLV-Mk III which is under development would have additional mass left for conducting scientific experiments besides a two-member crew.

    "We feel it (GSLV-Mk III) would be a better vehicle (for the mission)", he said.

    Radhakrishnan, however, said ISRO already has a budget of Rs 150 crore for conducting pre-project studies and developing critical technologies including environmental control, space suit, reentry and crew escape system. The rocket must have man-rating, he noted.


    The mission is aimed at building and demonstrate the capability for carrying humans to low earth orbit and their safe return to earth.

    In the year 2008, the buzz was that India would likely to have the human space flight during 2014-15, which now appears to be surely missed.

    An ISRO official in private said as of now, it appears such a mission may not take place before the end of the current decade.

    India not to undertake human space flight before 2017: ISRO - Economic Times
     
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    ^^ It's not because of funds, it's mainly due to the GSLV-Mk III.
     
  15. Abhyuday Pratap Singh

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    Well they have to begin with trails by the year 2015, your article dates sep 17, 2012 and mine April 9, 2013, I got the edge :mrgreen:

    India's first manned space flight trial in 2015

    but in reality this programme is solely dependent on GSLV. ISRO is planning to launch GSLV Mk. II variant space mission with indigenously built cryogenic engine in June 2013, an ISRO official said in January 2013.According to latest information available ISRO has fixed launch date 25 July 2013~~~hope that goes successful

    by the way GSLV Mk. III Suborbital developmental flight in April 2014

    High expectations form this Indian cryogenic engine


    Souce:- Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Mk III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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