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India's K-15 Ballasic Missile tasked to take out China's Aircraft Carrier 'Liaoning'

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by HariPrasad, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. HariPrasad

    HariPrasad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Avinash chander in an Interview said that India is developing a medium range anti ship ballastic missile. First thing struck my mind was a shaurya based missile with some seeker. The description of Pralay matches that of what Avinash chander had mentioned. It remains to be seen whether Pralay gets and anti ship variant or not? It seems that some members know the detail but do not want to divulge on open forum. However if we have such weapon than it will be an @$$ kicking capability. Unlike the chinese DF21, we shall be able to launch the same from land as well as from submarine. I am fully in favor of making a K4 based such system by which we can target enemy aircraft carrier when they are too far. They will always be in our range even when they are at high sea or patrolling their own area.
     
  2. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Why?

    No, there will be size constraints.
     
  3. Aqwoyk

    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Chinese a/cc wont be coming here for fighting though it might dock at Pakistani ports for some visits and making headlines in news . Their a/c ships will be there in SCS to deter US task forces and we need these Shaurya type missiles for taking out PLA and Plaaf bases / HQ9 / hq16 missile sites in TAR and we cant waste them on countering CBGs. We also have Laughing stock waali manufacturing capacity when it comes to mass manufacture of high tech missiles .
     
  4. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Ok!!

    Before we go too far away, I want one of our experts here to tell me, where the hell with China get it's Air Craft carrier into Indian Ocean from? CPEC?

    There is only the Sunda Straits and Indonesia will show them a big middle finger and US fleet sits there; along with Indians playing seafarers :D

    Now, will it be through Malacca? LOL

    It is a joke that is tickling me.

    They can, of course, station a CBG at Gwadar in the colony there. Also at Djibouti; as neighbours to US.

    Now I am really tickled @randomradio
     
  5. nair

    nair Die hard Romeo Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    If we go by our brothers in west....It will be docked in gawdar.... to protect Karachi.....
     
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    A_poster Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Tracking problem: How would you actively track a CBN in ocean in real time? Conventional radars could not track beyond horizon. AWACS are useless beyong 200-300 Km range. OTH radars are not very useful tool as they have low resolution and could only tell general area of a CBG, if at all. Satellites have a limited arc of vision and Submarines have to break their radio silence if they transmit position of a CBG.

    Data Link problem: How would you link data acquired to your missile in real time? I do not think any missile in existence has a real time data transfer facility beyond mid-flight phase.

    Target acquisition problem: How would a missile acquire target in terminal phase? and how would it ensure a hit on a moving target? A warhead in terminal phase is practically bling due to heat generated and plasma layer which come to surround it. And maneuverability being inversely proportional to velocity is a basic physics law. For a warhead traveling at mach 15+ speed, small error or variation would cause large deflection in targeting.

    Short range ASBMs are possible, but not long range ASBMs.
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Shaurya is mach 7.5 missile not mach 16
     
  8. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    CBG 'a are not sitting ducks anyways.

    In a theater warfare sure you would need potent missiles in the subs.

    Welcomed addition but there is a lot of questions/discussions on BM striking a moving target.

    Though CBG can be tracked using Sats.
    Though targeting is a entirely different issue all together. Area of denial far too greater to manuvere the BM in terminal phase.
     
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  9. surya kiran

    surya kiran 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Your assumption is that IN tactic is using BM for anti CBG operations, which is akin to the PLAN strategy. There-in lies the problem which I am trying to convey in the other forum too.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Guys, before you further proceed on a useless (sorry but it is) discussion here, please recall my query, where does China get it's CBG into IOR? And what are it's chances of even launching any kind of operations that India does not want it to?

    I am seriously asking you to answer that aspect.

    As for BM for CBG? I can assure you, it is a figment of imagination.
     
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  11. surya kiran

    surya kiran 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I would love to hear @vstol jockey vishesh tipnees without telling us details. But then koi bachon ka khush nahin karta.
     
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    surya kiran 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Have you seen the Marvels movie? It flies. The only sure shot way to take out a CBG with a BM is a freaking nuke.
     
  13. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Are you seriously derailing a very serious query of mine or is it meant as humor? :undecided:

    I am urging members here, to really understand the logic of my query.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Anyone care to expand? Please?
     

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