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India's missile defence shield is ready (yep)

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by uptotrix, May 6, 2012.

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  1. uptotrix

    uptotrix Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    copy pasted news :LMAO:

    India's missile defence shield ready: Defence Research and Development Organisation
     
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    Agent_47 Admin - Blog IDF NewBie

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    We are two decades back!

    btw china has ICBM missiles of range 10000.how we are gona deal with it?
     
  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    Come on dudes, let's cut them some slack. Does it ever occur to you that public support for ISRO and the fact that they have captured our imagination is a HUGE source of motivation for them. DRDO is no different. It hurts them when we call them jokers (I myself have called them so many times :partay: ) I think when AGni 5 was launched, they realized that they are cpaturing our imagination and it is truly inspiring them. What the hell...they built us a nuke sub, a fighter jet, an ICBM and an AC. Go DRDO. Great job guys!! Go ahead and do your thing. I COMPLETELY SUPPORT YOU!!!
     
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    uptotrix Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    no one will launch a 10,000 mile range missile, it's too pathetic. Room for interception is too narrow.
     
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    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Congrats folks.

    That's a big achievement.
    I'm all for this kind of development, despite it being a plus for the supposed enemy.
    As long as it's there to protect innocents, I'm all for it! :wave:
     
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    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Why, is India 10,000 km away from China?
     
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  7. olivers

    olivers 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    India to china is 5000 km at most from most places in China. The missile defense is a layered defense. It intercepts missiles at various altitudes. The second layer will target missiles with a velocity of 6 to 7 km/second as they approach the target. ICBM velocity is almost always 6 to 7 km/second or missiles of 5000 km range. IRBM's from Tibet which are India specific are also within the range of the system which is being deployed.

    India in the current context does not talk about global ambitions. Global ambitions of 10,000 km range are within the upto 5000km range mark. Hope this answers your questions. Almost all ICBMs will act like a 5000 km range missile, i.e. 7 km/s re-entry velocity.
     
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    olivers 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Junghi bahi as soon as it's deployed around major cities. Pakistan will have to upgrade it's arsenal in numbers and sophistication of it's missiles. Probably four times the arsenal. Indian arsenal will increase too. See the Russia-US spat on missile defense. This means increased expenditure. Economically India-Pakistan dosti karna hi padega for Pakistan.
     
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    Jungibaaz Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    upgrading the arsenal will happen anyway.
    And that fact that we have nukes will still remain a deterrent, ABM shields don't have a 100% effectiveness, nor can they take down every missile. Highhyper sonic missiles with counter measures and technological advances mean that eventually ABM shield will need to be upgraded too. Don't get me wrong, it's effective as it gets and is a huge achievement.

    But Pakistan deterrence is still there.

    This news is good to know since mutual destruction is no longer the goal, or to overkill the enemy more then he does to you.
    Pakistan may also get this capability with assistance from the Chinese and when funds permit.

    It would be good regardless of if Pakistan could hold out or not. Pakistan needs to shift funds from military extravagance to development. But you see Pakistan goal was never to match India, the army, air force navy all set out deny the enemy complete superiority.

    So yes it's likely that India will become well out of reach, but Pakistan need not match anyone.
    However, it would benefit us not to take part in such an arms race.

    regards,
     
  10. olivers

    olivers 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    One patta is still in your hands. Cruise missile.

    Missile defense is going to be updated continuously. It will be the sensors, radars and missiles which get updated and layers. The older missiles will move to other cities/other installations as the deployment progresses and advances are made. The other advantage is India is building ABM avoiding missiles. As this happens these counter measures defeating methods will also move into the missile defense shield.

    No government in India will attack Pakistan, unless there is a big escalation like Mumbai with commando style training, logistics and deployment.
     
  11. Nirvana

    Nirvana Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    It will go over our territory :cheesy:
     
  12. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    There is no full scale war. India wont accept even a dent in its economy. There could be some precision strikes which India is gearing up. India must be preparing for full scale defensive and retaliation in case Pak responds with with full scale retaliation or Nuke threat. We wont nuke them even if they take do. But for sure nuke capability will be permanently dismantled from them with the support of whole world. We are banking on their foolish response (which sounds likely/or not) to attain our goal of dismantling current Pakistan's army and government. There is no alternative for their army or government currently. We are building that alternative. Or else we would have strike'd long time back. Even if we strike that time there is no use, as they will again gather support and start all over again. But onething is it will be the Will of Pakistan people that will prevail at the end with support from whole world including India.
     
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    Nirvana Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Remember American patriot system was partially successfully during the gulf war in intercepting Scud missiles,over 100 missile Launches with 60-70% successful intercepting record.The reason was Kill mechanism,where PAC-2 used explosive warhead to Kill the enemy missile where it failed to completely destroy those scuds.we need to develop hit-to-kill mechanism.

    and Also Solid stage missiles are what we need,PDV will be more effective than current PAD.I think with 6 successful tests it is right of DRDO to deploy first unit of BMD initially with 2 layered defence from AAD and PAD.The Upgrades shall follow

    AD missiles which can intercept long range missiles with hit to kill mechanism are much awaited
     
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    Nirvana Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    as a Matter of fact,a BMD Shield can save many lives in case of full scale war !! No missile shield in the world currently is 100 % effective
     
  15. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    BMD in itself is never an effective defense. The ability to deliver devastating second strike and finish off the enemy before he can launch more missiles or your BMD gets saturated is another part of this defense.

    How can you just keeping knocking off incoming missiles and not launch retaliation? BMD gives you that initial security and allows you overcome the surprise also for a country like us who maintains no first use policy, it is important that we do not allow enemy missiles to hit us in case of first use by them. The knocking down of even 70% incoming nuke missiles will have debilitating effect on enemy bcoz than they will know that they are history. The ferocity by which counter strike will be launched by India is also as well stated as our no first use doctrine.
     
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