Indigenous Kaveri engines might power trains in the future, says DRDO

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    BENGALURU: Defence and Research Development Organisation (DRDO) is set to conduct the trial test on Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) powered by Kaveri engines in the next 18 months.

    Apart from military use, the Indian Railways has shown interest in using it to power trains. Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited is partnering the project, said director general of Aeronautical Systems, DRDO, Dr C P Ramanarayanan here on Sunday.

    Deadline for the testing of Kaveri engines have been delayed several times, after work for its development started in 1986.

    Commenting on the expenses incurred with respect to the project, he said that till date Rs 2,100 crore has been spent on the project. The total cost of developing the engine, which is expected to power Tejas LCA, will increase by another 500-600 crore by 2018, he added.

    Dr S Christopher, chairman, DRDO said that file pertaining to the Ghatak engine, a dry variant of Kaveri is yet to be given the in-principle clearance by the Ministry of Defence. Once it is approved, the defence research organisation will go ahead with the development of the engine, he said.

    Responding to queries regarding export potential of the new engine, programme director for Combact Aircraft and director of Aeronautical Development Agency C D Balaji said that there have been enquiries for Tejas from a few countries.

    At a recent airshow in Bahrain, countries such as Turkmenistan, Bangladesh and Srilanka have expressed interest in the aircraft, he said.


    http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...r-trains-in-the-future-says-drdo-1540730.html

    Is this true ?
     
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    Wait....Trains with Jet Engines ????
     
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    why not bollywood did that once :p
    [​IMG]
     
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    Doob marne .

    Bloody idiots they were making engine for super jets. Ended up with passanger train.

    Who is accountable for this loss of money time and respect.

    Make them pay for it. Kick them out jail them.
     
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    Kaveri can power trains, tanks, ships etc. It's a gas turbine engine.
     
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    DRDO ties up with Snecma to revive gas turbine engine for Tejas


    India’s defence research agency has signed a deal with French engine maker Snecma to revive and certify the Kaveri engine, before powering a flight of Tejas light combat aircraft prototype by 2018.


    Snecma, as part of the offsets deal for the 36 Rafale jetsIndia bought for its air force, would handhold the Gas turbine and research establishment (GTRE), which has designed Kaveri, to fix gaps in its performance, address safety concerns, certify and fly it on a Tejas light combat aircraft. The Rs 600 odd crore expense for Snecma, which powers the Rafale jets, would be adjusted against the 50 per cent offsets that it is mandated to spend in India.


    The Kaveri project has been on the backburner for nearly a decade after GTRE, an agency of Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), struggled to reduce its weight and improve its performance needed to power the fighter. So far, the government has spent Rs 2,100 crore on the engine that has tested on ground for over 3,000 hours and around 30 hours on a IL-76 transport plane in Russia. It has a marine variant that the Navy is testing and it is in talks with Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd and the Indian Railways to power rail engines.


    “Once the engine houses make it a flightworthy engine, we have numerous programmes coming up and there is more than one place for it to be fitted. The question is whether we will be able to fit it into only the LCA or will we be able to get it into the (GE) 414 with the higher power is a point that we are raising,” said C P Ramanarayanan, DRDO Director General for Aeronautics cluster said.


    The Indian Air Force has ordered for over 120 single engine Tejas fighters powered by a General Electric 404 engine, the powerplant the aircraft first flew in January 2001. So far the Tejas has flown nearly 3,300 sorties, which includes sorties by IAF chief Arup Raha and the air chief of Turkmenistan.


    An upgraded Mark-2 aircraft of Tejas is being designed for a more heavier GE-414 engine by 2025, and the DRDO hopes that the upgraded Kaveri would qualify for the plane by then.


    If not, the Kaveri would power other programmes such as Ghatak, the unmanned combat aircraftvehicle of UCAV, for which studies have begun by the research agency.


    “So we have Ghatak in our hand, we have so many other programmes coming up. Anyway we have to have indigenous engine development also. All that we are trying to do is trying to allocate one of the prototype for this and make use of some of the offset for this hand holding if possible,” said Ramnarayanan.


    India is among the few countries in the world such as Russia, Britain, US and France to have capabilities to build a gas turbine engine.

    The chief of Aeronautical Development Agency Commodore C D Balaji said that the agency expects around 40 aircraft of the 123 planes ordered by the IAF would be delivered by 2020 and the remaining 83 by 2025. He said the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd is doubling its production of Tejasto 16 from eight.


    http://www.business-standard.com/article/specials/drdo-ties-up-with-snecma-to-revive-gas-turbine-engine-for-tejas-116112000534_1.html
     
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    Read the first line in the OP
     
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    I am reading this for 15 yeqrs
     
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    Good! At least 2100 crores didn't go to waste..
     
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    This is what it is not meant to be. They will use the turbine as a generator to run diesel-electric locos.
     
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    In just over 300million USD , the noobs, the losers the hopeless have come up with a working prototype.

    Compare this to nations which spend hundred of billions.

    I am proud over Kaveri and the people who worked for it.
     
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    Is it possible that Modi and Parikkar offered carrot and sticks to France to get Rafale deal? I mean arm twisting french to first work on kaveri engine and when certain mile stones are met India will go with the deal. This is because previously also they offered to help get kaveri working but once they got MMRCA deal they backtracked. But Modi and Parrikar ensured that now with this deal they first deliver Engine technology and then get the whole Rafale deal. If so then I must congratulate them on their prudence, thats why I am big fan of this pure bhartiya Government.

    This also reflects in confidence that government is contemplating Tejas export and there is no order for GE F404 engine. Both these development points one thing there is more to Rafale deal than what it looks like. Cudos to Modi and Parrikar if they have successfully arm twisted french.
     
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    highly doubt this , the exhaust of the gt is close to 650°C , and it's thermal efficiency cannot match diesels . a high capacity and efficient organic rankine cycle waste heat recovery system would be needed .
     

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