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Indo-Afghan ‘historical’ relations: where does Pakistan fit? : Pak Media

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by layman, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. layman

    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    Afghanistan seems to have been obsessed with the length and breadth of its “historical” friendship with India. The obsession with India is best manifested in the belief – and at times in government-issued statements – that, Afghanistan and India have had centuries-long, or perhaps millennia-long, relationship.

    Seasoned politicians and ordinary Afghans pay lip service alike to the aforementioned mantra. No doubt, India’s influence – projected mainly through its movies and TV shows, scholarships to Afghan students, and India’s sponsorship of some post-9/11 projects – is widespread in Afghanistan. However, one cannot think and talk of any “centuries-long” Indo-Afghan relationship without factoring in Pakistan.

    Misperception, misrepresentation


    To begin with, Afghanistan and India do not share a common border; Pakistan lies between them. When it comes to Pakistan, Afghans believe that there was no such thing as Pakistan prior to 1947 and that it was carved out of British India. The statement would be true if you looked at Pakistan as a state. However, the geography and people of present-day Pakistan have existed as long a history as those of India and Afghanistan. The 5,000-year-old Bronze Age Indus Valley Civilisation that extended to parts of Afghanistan and India was mainly centred in present-day Pakistan. As a matter of fact, it was the territory and people of present-day Pakistan that made any interaction between present-day Afghanistan and present-day India possible.

    To clarify, the application of the concept of the nation-state is relatively new, especially in our part of the world. Prior to that, political boundaries would shift depending on how much power, or lack thereof, a ruler had. In the case of Afghanistan, the current Afghan nation-state came into being in the 1890s, after most of its borders were demarcated (at least on paper) by the British and Russians.

    As such, any discussion of the historical relationship between India and Afghanistan, prior to 1947, would automatically drag in Pakistan. It was through present-day Pakistan that for centuries armies had marched from Afghanistan and beyond into India, or the other way around. In Sir Olaf Caroe’s words:


    “It is interesting that the ‘India’ of Herodotus, and indeed of Alexander and the Greeks and Romans generally, was a part of what we now know as the Panjab and Sind. It was the valley of the Indus, and geographically comparable with… Pakistan of today… In a setting of ancient history, Pakistan has thus a better claim to be known as India than has the Bharat of post-partition days since 1947. Darius, Herodotus, Alexander, Pompey, Horace, Trajan, would certainly have thought of India in the geographical terms of what is now…Pakistan.”

    Moving forward

    It is not merely of historical importance to consider Pakistan when it comes to Indo-Afghan relations. Afghanistan should exercise caution and honesty when handling both India and Pakistan. The unnecessarily close Indo-Afghan relations have bothered the civilian and military leadership in Pakistan. Even worse, the Indo-Afghan relationship is beginning to turn Pakistani public opinion anti-Afghanistan, which in turn would further deepen the growing Afghan-Pakistan divide. Let’s keep in mind that for decades it’s been due to favourable Pakistani public opinion toward Afghanistan that Afghans have lived, worked, and studied with relative peace – without even having legal documents on them – in Pakistan. Rarely would you find such an example in the history of our modern world?

    We must also be mindful of the fact that it is Afghanistan and Pakistan that share 2,430-kilometre long border, religion, and culture, and that it’s Pakistan with whom Afghanistan actually has had a longer historical relationship. For instance, there are around 50 million people living on either side of the Afghan-Pakistan border who belong to the same ethnic group and speak the same language. It might also come as a surprise to many of my fellow Afghans to learn that the father of modern Afghanistan, Ahmad Shah Durrani (also known as Abdali), is believed to have been born in Multan and not the official birthplace, Herat. Is Multan in present-day Pakistan or in present-day India?


    While Afghanistan, as a sovereign state, has every right to befriend whoever it wants, it should act realistically, considering its location, and strengths and weaknesses. Afghanistan’s being realistically considerate of Pakistan’s importance would help mitigate the growing anti-Afghanistan sentiments in Pakistan as well as alleviate part of the Pakistani leadership’s concerns. When Afghanistan expects Pakistan to play a meaningful role in restoring peace and stability in Afghanistan, Afghanistan should also act responsibly and realistically.

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  2. SrNair

    SrNair Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Oh really?
    What do you meant by unnecessarily close relations?

    You can take it leave it .But this is the reality Pakistan is just a recent phenomenon of 70 years.Afghan/Pashtun culture was already in there even before the British/ other invaders sin's manifestation known as Pakistan .
    Look here it seems the moron that wrote this shit is a half cousin of kaptan .
    Morons even try to claim the IVC ,a belief that is still followed by India and Indias even after thousands of years .
    Invaders attacks/Natural calamities forced them to take refugee in inner parts of India like in Gangetic plain .

    Look at the comment sections,Afghanis hate them to core and there is no wonder in it .
    Even we Indians acknowledges the very existence of Pakistan but for Afghans Pakistan is an unnecessary geographic obstacle the prevent their full embracement with their brother.
     
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    layman Aurignacian STAR MEMBER

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    I guess Lost and Ignored Child wants attention....
     
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    Pak-i-stan's natural fit in Indo-Afghan relation is that of a doormat.
     
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    Ignored child is busy writing script for their new movie by production house ISPR.... They have busy days ahead....
     
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    Well , Pakistanis are really wondering what is going here.
    Until 1990's it was Pakistan's show ,through influence ,economy etc .
    But within two decades they are become nothing in front of us .They are still struggling to digest that reality .
    This death sentence drama was nothing but a crying of a neglected child .
    Neither GoI nor India (not even Indian media) gives them any attention now a days .
     
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