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Indo-Us Relations : Modi-Trump Handshake. What to expect?

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by defc0n, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Narendra Modi's US visit to meet President D.Trump is being hyped to a great extent.

    Some of the key points that will be discussed based on what is being shown in the media are:

    1) Terrorism:
    Both the countries have a fair idea on the implications of terrorism and the people and nations sponsoring terror.
    However, given US interests in Afganistan, how willing will the US be to go against Pakistan, given their own interest in yet to be seen. Again, Modi will try to bring Pakistan to a position where the flow of fund can be cut off!

    Can India leverage any advantage in terms of knows terror propagators sitting in Pakistan, and enjoying Pak security?


    2) Win-Win Situation for US-India in terms of propagation of work:
    This is a place which will be a point to note. Given Trump's ambition of generating work in the US, it is in direct contradiction to what India wants. Securing the jobs of US-based Indian citizens and generating jobs in India. Possible? Only time will tell.


    3) Strategic Partnership:
    Given the partnership with Lockheed-Martin, what kind of partnership can India expect from the US?
    Possible to get MQ9-Reaper or things that make sense (instead of F-16, which in my opinion is not worth the bill) in future?

    What do you guys think?

    @Levina @Hellfire @PARIKRAMA @lca-fan @vstol jockey @Agent_47 @nair @SrNair
     
  2. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Just a hype.
    We are typically bribing them to do our job.
     
  3. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Bribing them? The US needs India's cooperation as well to keep China in check. Ties with India will mean that in the case of a conflict, they might set up a base here or something, though I doubt India will allow that!
    There is something in the joint-statement that a "New terror group" will be designated.
     
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  4. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    The Indo-US relationship (even under Trump) will remain relatively unchanged with little tangible gains on a G2G level other than rhetoric.

    Pakistan won't be touched, India won't get what it wants on the economic side (H1B visa issue resolved swiftly) and the defence front will remain transactional and not transformational (no ToT, no cutting edge systems and no local manufacturing).
     
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    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    This 2 billion deal more like a bribery to please the Trump .
     
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  6. Bregs

    Bregs Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Indian shall not be too much optimistic under trump, if we can maintain status quo of Indo-US relations under trump it's nothing less then a coup for India
     
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    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    The world 'CANNOT' function without Indian workforce. Whether its the unskilled expats in the middle east, top notch docs/engineers in the US or our software dudes all over the world.
     
  8. Abingdonboy

    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Wish it was being spent on something more useful to India (like 60 or so S-70Bs or 40 Ch-47Fs), 22 Guardians is a bad deal for India.
     
  9. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Even F-16 looks like a bad deal to me...Pretty pointless in this day and age.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    The F-16 deal will be the worst deal India has ever signed from a geopolitcal, strategic and operational perspective. I am hoping against hope that this is all an elaborate joke but Modi seems to pushing for this entirely pointless and harmful SE deal and it looks like it is increasingly likely to come to fruition.

    The day India signs for the F-16 it can officially forget about ever being a power in its own right, it will 100% be another American puppet.
     
  11. SrNair

    SrNair Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I dont think Guardian is that bad .
    Our priority is to check Chinese activities in IOR .S 70 or CH 47 are more tactical but guardian is strategic .
    By linking with Gsat 7 and P 81,it can do a lot of job .
    Even though a bribe it is worthy
     
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    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    US Designates Hizbul Mujahideen Chief Syed Salahuddin as Global Terrorist

    Washington: The US Department of State on Monday designated Mohammad Yusuf Shah, also known as (AKA) Syed Salahuddin, as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT).

    Mohammad Yusuf Shah is the senior leader of the militant group Hizbul Mujahideen (HM).


    The move comes just hours before the first meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and US President Donald Trump at the White House.

    India welcomes the decision and said it stands 'vindicated'.
    Syed Salahuddin has been charged under Section 1(b) of Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, which imposes sanctions on foreign persons who have committed, or pose a significant risk of committing, acts of terrorism that threaten the security of US nationals or the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States.

    Designations of terrorist individuals and groups expose and isolate organisations and individuals, and result in denial of access to the US financial system.

    Designations can assist or complement the law enforcement actions of other nations, said the executive order.

    In September 2016, Salahuddin vowed to block any peaceful resolution to the Kashmir conflict, threatened to train more Kashmiri suicide bombers, and vowed to turn the Kashmir valley “into a graveyard for Indian forces".


    Source : http://www.news18.com/news/world/us...d-salahuddin-as-global-terrorist-1444085.html
     
  13. stephen cohen

    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    You have no idea about the Growing Menace called China

    It is better to be aligned with USA

    India was never interested in being a global power

    We have always been a status quo power and we wish to maintain this

    China Pak alliance is real and is designed to hurt us
     
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    can't agree more on this :chilli:. you are spot on
     
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    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't think China can hurt India without hurting themselves in return. I am quite sure that's not something that China would want!
     
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