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Indus Water Treaty - references

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by MilSpec, Nov 27, 2016.

  1. MilSpec

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    There is no add on to upload and save document on forum. Maybe admin can upload it on this very server and link them here and make this sticky.
     
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    Pak-India water talks delayed : Pak Media


    The secretary-level talks between Pakistan and India for resolving two controversial hydropower projects, including Kishanganga hydro electric project and Ratle hydro electric project, in Washington have been delayed and will now be held by end of current month.

    Earlier, the talks were scheduled for April 11-13 but now it is likely to be held in the last week of April, official sources told The Nation here Wednesday.

    Last month, Federal Minister for Power and Water Khawaja Asif had told newsmen that after the US intervention, the secretary-level talks between Pakistan and India for resolving two controversial hydropower projects, including Kishanganga hydro electric project(330MWs) and under-construction Ratle hydro electric project(850 MWs) in occupied Jammu and Kashmir will be held in Washington next month. “The US has intervened and decided to help both the countries in resolving the issue. There will be secretary-level talks on the Ratle and Kishanganga hydropower projects between both the countries in Washington on April 11-13 2017,” the minister had said.

    When contacted, Commissioner Indus Water Treaty Asif Baig said that they have submitted their response to the World Bank and now they will contact India regarding their response. When asked why the meeting was postponed, he said, April 11-13 was not the scheduled date for the meeting as it was just the proposed dates. He said that the World Bank with the consensus of both countries will provide fresh dates of the meeting. He said that he does not know about the new dates.

    Pakistan has serious reservation over the designs of both projects and believes that these projects would concede India to impede the water flow to the country.

    About the controversial Kishanganga and Ratle hydroelectric projects, Pakistan is seeking International Court of Arbitration (ICA) through the World Bank while India insists to resolve the issue through neutral experts. Under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT), New Delhi has to share all the details of any hydropower project on the rivers on which Pakistan has water rights under the IWT with Islamabad. However, no design of these projects has been shared with Pakistan which is violation of the treaty.

    The proposed Kishenganga Hydroelectric project is located in occupied Jammu and Kashmir on river Neelum. The design envisages the construction of 180.5 meter long and 35.48 meter high concrete dam. The full pondage capacity is 18.35 MCM(0.0061MAF).

    As per the official documents, the detailed information about Run-of-River project was received from India on June 25 2006. Pakistan raised objections under the provisions of Indus Water Treaty 1960 and were sent to India on August 2006. Mainly, Pakistan has objections on pondage, sediment outlet, type of spillway and placement of power intakes.



    For example, India proposed pondage is 6120 acre feet (7.55 Mm3) while Pakistan has proposed 811 acre feet(1.0 Million Cubic metre Mm3). Similarly, India has proposed Orifice Spillway with Crest placed 20m (65.6 ft) below normal pool however Pakistan raised objections over the structure and instead proposed surface gated spillway with crest level 10 m(64.0 ft) below normal pool level at 2380 m.

    Regarding Intake Crest Elevation, India proposed 2378.8 m amsl1 and Pakistan rejected the same proposed surface intake with crest at2382.8 m amsl i.e. crest is to be raised by 4 m (13.1 ft).

    Similarly, there is also disagreement over capacity above spillway crest or controllable storage. India proposed it should be 14,836 acre feet (18.3Mm3) however Pakistan proposed 11,000 acre feet (13.5 Mm3).

    Similarly, Ratle Hydro Power project is located on the main Chenab river about 55 Km upstream of 900MW Baglihar Hydropower project. It has the installed capacity of 850 MW. It has a concrete gravity dam with height of 111m, Gross capacity of the reservoir is 78.71 Mm3 (Million Cubic Meters) or 64000 acre feet. The capacity of the operating pool (pondage) is 23.86 Mm3 or 19300 acre feet. It has an orifice spillway with five gates of 10.75 m (width) and 14.2 m(height); the spillway crest has an elevation of 985.0 m amsl with storage above spillway crest of 61.2 Mm3 or 50000 acre feet.

    According the official documents, the design of the project was received from India on August 29, 2012 and Pakistan has communicated its objection on November 26, 2012. Pakistan has objected to the design of the Ratle project as it believes the Indian design of the project would reduce Chenab flows by 40 per cent at Head Marala.

    Pakistan has objections to Ratle’s Freeboad, Pondage, Spillway and Intake crest elevation. India has proposed Freeboard of 2 meter however Pakistan has raised objections and said that it should be one metre , India proposed pondage of 19300 acre feet (23.8 million cubic metre) but Pakistan wants it should be a maximum of eight million cubic metres. India has proposed Orifice Spillway with Crest placed 44 M (144.4 ft) below normal pool level but Pakistan proposed Surface gated spillway with crest level 19.5 m(64.0ft) below normal pool level. Similarly, Pakistan proposed that intake level should be at 8.8 metre.

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    @mods can you merge the threads of IWT to this thread and leave redirection for a week. Thanks
     
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    India holds back on talks with Pakistan water secretary
    Published April 17, 2017
    SOURCE: ET

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    India has put on hold a World Bank-facilitated initiative for water secretary-level talks with Pakistan in Washington, owing to differences of opinion on techical issues of Indus River hydel projects.

    Persons familiar with the issue told ET that further expert level technical discussions are imperative before the two secretaries can meet. The meeting would be futile if the water resources secretaries meet without the requisite preparation, said one of the persons.

    Incidentally, India’s move to cancel talks comes close on the heels of Pakistani military tribunal’s order to execute Kulbhusban Jadhav. Delhi has put on hold a maritime dialogue with Pakistan and weighing several other tough political and legal options to safeguard Jadhav.

    Persons familiar with the developments told ET that efforts to safeguard Jadhav could be a prolonged process as it involves several legal procedures within Pakistan as well as through the United Nations. The Pakistani side, following the Permanent Indus Commission (PIC) meeting last month, had announced that water resources secretaries will meet in the US capital on April 11-13 to discuss differences over the Kishanganga and Ratle hydropower projects on the river Indus.

    Islamabad has been protesting over the design and construction of two projects — the 330MW Kishanganga hydroelectric project and the 850MW Ratle hydroelectric project in Jammu and Kashmir. Islamabad has been demanding international arbitration through the World Bank.

    The World Bank, which brokered the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960, had said it is prepared to facilitate the meeting. “We continue to work with both countries to resolve the issue in an amicable manner and in line with the spirit of the treaty. We hope the two countries will come to an agreement soon,” Alexander Anthony Ferguson, World Bank’s senior manager communications (South Asia) said in a statement last month.

    The PIC annual meet (held in Pakistan) for 2016-17 was first after all bilateral dialogue under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) was suspended following terror strikes on an army camp in Uri last September by Pakbased terror groups. However, attempting to signal a thaw in ties, India decided to hold PIC meet before the end of financial year in March. The 10-member Indian delegation at PIC is led by Indian Indus Water Commissioner PK Saxena.

    However, Delhi has taken strong exception to the World Bank’s decision to set up a court of arbitration as desired by Pakistan, and to also appoint a neutral expert, as wanted by India, over the two projects. It said proceeding with both steps simultaneously was “legally untenable”.

    In January this year, Pakistan had asked India to stop work on these two projects.
     
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    Pakistan Embarrassed : World Bank permits India to construct Kishanganga, Ratle projects

    Under the Indus Waters Treaty, India is permitted to construct hydroelectric power facilities on tributaries of the Jhelum and Chenab rivers with certain restrictions, the World Bank has said.

    Pakistan opposes the construction of the Kishanganga (330 megawatts) and Ratle (850 megawatts) hydroelectric power plants being built by India, it said in a fact sheet issued yesterday at the conclusion of secretary-level talks between the two countries over the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT).

    Noting that the two countries disagree over whether the technical design features of the two hydroelectric plants contravene the treaty, the World Bank said the IWT designates these two rivers as well as the Indus as the "Western Rivers" to which Pakistan has unrestricted use.

    "Among other uses, India is permitted to construct hydroelectric power facilities on these rivers subject to constraints specified in Annexures to the treaty," the Bank said in its fact sheet as it noted that the secretary-level discussions between Indian and Pakistan on the technical issues of the IWT took place this week "in a spirit of goodwill and cooperation".

    The parties have agreed to continue discussions and reconvene in September in Washington, DC, it said in a separate statement.

    In the lengthy fact sheet, the World Bank said Pakistan asked it to facilitate the setting up of a Court of Arbitration to look into its concerns about the designs of the two hydroelectric power projects.

    On the other hand, India had asked for the appointment of a neutral expert to look into the issues, contending the concerns Pakistan raised were "technical" ones.

    The IWT was signed in 1960 after nine years of negotiations between India and Pakistan with the help of the World Bank, which is also a signatory.

    The World Bank's role in relation to "differences" and "disputes" is limited to the designation of personnel to fulfill certain roles when requested by either or both of the parties, the fact sheet said.

    http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=263521
     
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    if I was NaMo, I will pay back World bank's remaining dues and cancel this treaty. World bank is a party only as long as its money is not repaid. Imagine the amount of good it will do to India?
     

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