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Is India Playing the United States Against Russia?

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Averageamerican, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Is India Playing the United States Against Russia?

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    Not exactly. But it will continue its military relationship with Russia, even as it tightens ties with the United States.

    India’s finance minister, who is also India’s defense minister, has some financial business to attend to this week in United States. And then he’s got some defense matters to deal with — in Russia. India’s finance minister, who is also India’s defense minister, has some financial business to attend to this week in United States. And then he’s got some defense matters to deal with — in Russia.

    According to official sources, Arun Jaitley will be in the Washington for World Bank-IMF meetings from April 21 to 23. From there, he will head straight to Moscow for a two-day visit to tighten military ties.

    Is India playing the two countries — both of which wail about U.S.-Russia relations being at an all-time low — off one another?

    Not exactly. But it is a residual effect of Soviet days, and a reminder that, for all of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s apparent move toward the United States and its allies, India values above all freedom of action in its foreign policy.

    After India gained its independence in 1947, the United States was New Delhi’s strongest partner, said Rick Rossow of the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Only two decades later, after the United States decided to privilege partnerships with China and Pakistan, did Russia offer overt support, opening “the spigot” on supporting India with military gear.

    But the United States is again, much like the days after Partition, “clearly the number one partner for India,” said Sadanand Dhume of the American Enterprise Institute. This particular visit to Moscow, likely planned long before Jaitley became defense minister, is different in nature than those that took place during the Cold War, when a visit to Washington was immediately followed by a reassuring trip to Moscow.

    Still, despite Modi’s overtures to the United States, one of the durable vestiges of Soviet days is India’s military relationship with Russia. There are only a handful of countries with the advanced defense technology that India covets, and that are willing to share, Rossow noted.'>Still, despite Modi’s overtures to the United States, one of the durable vestiges of Soviet days is India’s military relationship with Russia. There are only a handful of countries with the advanced defense technology that India covets, and that are willing to share, Rossow noted.

    And, though the United States (and Israel) have made inroads — including promises from the Pentagon to share more advanced technology for next-generation aircraft carriers — Russia is still India’s the main arms supplier. Modi’s Made in India campaign seeks to onshore all sorts of domestic manufacturing, but surface to air missiles and stealth frigates for the Indian navy will be made with help from Russia.

    Military assistance from Russia, as opposed to the United States, comes with fewer strings: Moscow is less likely care just how or against whom India uses those weapons.

    Strategic autonomy is what India values above all else in its foreign policy. Modi’s government may have preferred a successful rapprochement between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, just as American resistance to Chinese aggression would be most welcome in New Delhi. But it can live with a chilly U.S.-Russian relationship and a seemingly chummy start to Trump’s relationship with Chinese President Xi Jinping — as long as Washington never demands that India stop working so closely with Russia.

    “Had that been the cost of doing business,” Dhume said, “there’d much smaller constituency for closer U.S.-India relations.”'
     
  2. Averageamerican

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    India Playing the United States Against Russia?
    India has been doing that since it got its independence from Great Britain
     
  3. Ankit Kumar 001

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    There is nothing which India gets from USA , so that it can play that card against Russia.

    USA still "gifts " artillery , Night Vision Systems and heavy machine guns to Pakistan Army , for use against Terrorists , which eventually ends up causing deaths of Indian soldiers on LOC.

    Further USA has not been flexible for supporting any strategic project in India, neither has been flexible with ToT.

    The additional list of " Terms and Conditions" on USA military equipment always make our forces think thrice between buying a system from USA which will be our front line and back bone.

    In the future too , USA will be limited to C130 , P8 , Apache and Chinook purchases.

    And these are not enough to be used against Russia.
     
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  4. AbRaj

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    Stupidest conclusion I've seen so far (not the writer's).
    Why should anyone choose sides because USA don't like Russia to dominate in geopolitical game both are playing since ages.
    Consider India as a third party non interested in this cock fighting. It simply wants better relations with both but not at the cost of anyone.
    USA is free to do whatever they like if they think relations with India are harmful. We never promised severing ties with our oldest ally to please USA or EU,so Why this blame game??
     
  5. Zen0

    Zen0 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    No the other way around , Russia is Playing with Pakistan to keep Indian geopolitics shackled from allying to the west. Everyone has their own agenda.

    Unfortunately we have to go half way with both. Defence with Russia & economy with USA
     
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    USA - India relations are still at nascent stage and have not been tested in trying times unlike Russia. The time for India to use US against Russia is still 2-3 decades away
     
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    Well said :dance3:

    Rather its been US who has always played other counties against each other oustcome of which benefits US
     
  8. PeegooFeng41

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    Guess we learnt it from US herself. There are no permanent allies or enemies, just permanent interests. Thanks for teaching us!
     
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    Lets think about this , last year India had a 24 billion trade surplus with the USA that translates into tens of millions of Indian jobs. 11 Billion in remittances from USA.
     
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    Why is it that you dumb rednecks think that by consuming a product or service, you are doing a favor to rest of the world?
     
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    And from this year onwards we are seeing that screws are being tightened on some of the Indian 'exports' like IT services / softwares. Trump has a policy of Buy American and Hire American.

    Nothing wrong with it, US has every right to serve the interest of her people first. India will also look for her interests. Playing Russia card for getting some favorable deals should be a part of it.

    Isn't it business as usual?
     
  12. The enlightened

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    Last year US had a trade deficit of $350 billion with China which ultimately uses all that money to build its military to fukk USA in the a$$. What does that say about Average American IQ?
     
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    Are you Serious? Are you Serious? Are you Serious?:fuu:
     
  14. YarS

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    Sure, comrade. As for me, the best deal with Yanks is killing them and getting all what you need for free. And you can play Russian and Chines card to make this deal. If you need a place on the top of future world - you have to be one of the winners in WWIII.
     
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    US and Russia are both free market capitalist countries now. India has also accepted the ideology. No reason why we should have enmity against either.
     

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