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Is India Playing the United States Against Russia?

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Averageamerican, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. YarS

    YarS Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We can fight not only by ideological reasons.
     
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  2. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Don't worry. India always plays safe. India is the master in foreign policy.
     
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    InfoWarrior 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I think Pakistan is playing China against India. Why should China effect its economic future by protecting Masood Azar and CPEC ? @Averageamerican
     
  4. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    If you ask me the truth dude....I don't even know what the hell you guys are fighting about. It all looks like a bit of sibling rivalry to me. And as is the case with those things we expect you'll squabble for a while and find some way to put things in order.
     
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  5. YarS

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    As for me, best way to put things in order is a peaceful delimitation of Canada-Mexican border.
     
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  6. Villager

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    What is their to test in Indo-US relationship? There is no alliance or partnership. India wants to have it's freedom in its foreign policy, US wants India to contain China and maintain its superpower status for as long possible. Russia wants to sell its weapons. No common interest to support each other.
     
  7. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    India always sided with the USSR against the USA.
     
  8. YarS

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    At least because USA is a British Empire Mk2, same AngloSaxes.
     
  9. Butter Chicken

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    Well,the USA sided with the pakistani first
     
  10. HariPrasad

    HariPrasad Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    US can do that that will be counter productive. Human material of US is not capable to keep US in the top position which they enjoys today. If they restricts Indian's entry in IT, US will loose its edge in IT and similarly in many fields like education etc. US is going to loose its dominance in many areas in years to come but this will make it faster.
     
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    Indian Ties With Russia Independent Of United States: Ashley Tellis

    Washington: India will maintain its relationship with Russia "independent of the US" as Moscow is willing to provide in depth capabilities and technologies which America would not offer, a top US expert has said.

    "I think India will always have a relationship with Russia independent of the United States for a very simple reason, that the Russians have been far more willing to providing in depth strategic capabilities and strategic technologies of the kind that we would not either for reasons of policy or law," Ashley Tellis, a senior fellow of the Carnegie Endowment for International Relations told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee yesterday.


    "Our objective with India has been more subtle than I think has been expressed often in the public commentary. The United States has approached India with a view to building its own capabilities, rather than seeking to forge an alliance," Mr Tellis said in response to a question from Senator Elizabeth Warren.




    "Some have recently suggested that India is playing the US and Russia against each other for its own benefit. Do you think that is true and do you believe that this is something the US should be concerned about?" she asked.

    Ms Warren said the US-India relationship has evolved over the past decade from one of distance to a close strategic partnership.

    "In just the past few years alone, the US Department of Defense has named India a major defence partner and established the Defense Technology Trade Initiative," she said.

    "But India famously values its non-alignment in foreign policy and it has a long-standing relationship with Russia.

    Even today, Russia is India's primary arms supplier and whereas the US emphasises restrictions on the use of force, Russian arms come with very few strings attached," Ms Warren said.

    Ashley Tellis said America's calculation has been that if India can stand on its own feet, and if India can help balance China independently, then that's a good thing for the US irrespective of what they do with the US bilaterally.

    "I think that policy is a sensible one and we ought to pursue it. Let me say one other thing about Russia," he said.

    According to Mr Tellis, Indians have come around to the recognition that Russia today no longer has the kind of cutting-edge capabilities that it did during the days of the Soviet Union.

    "And that the Russians are not particularly reliable with respect to providing advanced conventional technologies of the kind that the US has," he said.

    "So while they want to keep the relationship with Russia in good repair, because they have a substantial, military hardware. They want to diversity and the US is number one on the diversification plan," Mr Tellis said
     
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    The US does not seek an actual alliance, nor should we, but we do seek a meaningful partnership that benefits us too: Former top Pentagon official

    The US and India increasingly share a common strategic outlook on the Asia Pacific, especially a mutual concern over Chinese military modernisation and adventurism, but the question here is, can we reach a new level of cooperation to place limits on Chinese ambition?

    “I believe it is possible, but only if the United States and India together persist in overcoming the suspicions of the past and build stronger habits of actual cooperation. And this is going to require the US and Indian systems, which are not naturally compatible, to demonstrate mutual flexibility as well as ambition,” Magsamen said.

    The strategic logic behind Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ‘Act East’ policy is highly compatible with that of the US rebalance. “But more importantly, we share common values as the world’s two largest democracies and as well as a culture of innovation and entrepreneurship. In many ways, we are natural partners,” she said.

    It is essential that we sustain the momentum,” Magsamen said.

    For that to happen, leaderships have to drive it from the top lest both bureaucracies smother the chance of progress. “I found that we often stand in our own way. But India also has to demonstrate that it is prepared to let go of its old fears. The US does not seek an actual alliance, nor should we, but we do seek a meaningful partnership that benefits us too, she said.

    “Our strategic partnership will reach its value limits in the defence realm, if we cannot build practical habits of cooperation. For example, we need to operate and exercise more together and with others, facilitate more exchanges of our military personnel, and regularise our defence dialogues at every level,” Magsamen added.
     
  13. Villager

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    US simply had objection to our neutrality which is/was threat their game of world domination. India was not willing to submit but Pakistan was ready to follow US/Soviet tail and lick its feet for support in war against India and thus the great democracy of US forges alliance with Islamic republic of Pak with narrative of India against US and it's allies.

    US has been the biggest rogue nation for past several decades on Earth but it also happens to be the sole superpower, they are gonna try and play their games for a ls long as possible.
     
  14. Averageamerican

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  15. Butter Chicken

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    USA has provided $30-35 billion USD military and cash aid to Pakistan since 2001
     
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