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IS The Babur Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

Discussion in 'Indian Military Doctrine' started by ShUeY, Apr 1, 2011.

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  1. ShUeY

    ShUeY FULL MEMBER

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    I was comparing the statistics, and it well seems like the Baburs, better than Brahmos, at both stealth, operational range, payload capacity, costs, etc. The only advantage i see Brahmos has over Babur is, well Speed, but that seems about it. I'm pretty dissapointed, so someone wanna' clear this up for me?
     
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    Hashu Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    first of all, brahmos is about 5-6 times faster! brahmos is a 2 stage missle while Baburs is one stage!! Brahmos is mush much more accurate! and last but not least brahmos's warhead is semi-armour-piercing!
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    Brahmos block III has a lot of advanced guidance features that helps it even hit targets in mountainous areas. Speed is a very important factor, it gives the enemy a lot lesser time to react and makes it harder to take it out.

    The other advantage of the Brahmos is that it can be launched from the air, land and sea.
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    how you compair
    both are different and as pre technical data brahmos is far deadlly then babur
    watch sky a verry fast moving object before you move a booom (brahmos)
    watch sky a fast moving object go to aa gun fire and a booom ................... missile blast at air (babur)
    that is different
     
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    ShUeY FULL MEMBER

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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    Is Babur more comparable to missiles such as our Nirbhay? And if so is our Nirbhay better than their Babur
     
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    ShUeY FULL MEMBER

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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    I also hear Babur is a very stealthy missile, and that it can go through and trick, and pass air defence systems. Is that true? can our Brahmos do that? and how stealthy is our Brahmos compared to Babur
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    for brahmos
    range 290 km
    if enemy detect it at 100 km then they have only 1 minute 40 second
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    How exactly is it stealthy, im not doubting you. Just rather curious
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    and Imagen brahmos mk 2 hyper sonic detected at 100 km and enemy have only 55 second of life
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    The Nirbhay is still under development.
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    Babur is another repainted chinese missile
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    Babur is actually a re-engineered Tomahawk cruise missile.
     
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    Both are different Babur is real cruise missile same as tomahawk.
    brahmos is Russian anti-ship cruise missile PJ-10 reverse engineered to use against land targets.

    1:Range
    Babur has many variants 500KM, 700KM, 750km which provide wide range of targets 700km can cover whole Delhi.
    Brahmos range is limited to 290km.

    2:Stealth
    Babur have terrain hugging ability which helps the missile to avoid enemy radar detection.
    According to American experts Babur can penetrate PAC-3 with ease.
    Guidance: INS, TERCOM/DSMAC, GPS Babur can hit its target with pin point accuracy.
    Brahmos have no stealth features.

    3:Speed
    Babur speed is 880km/h same as Tomahawk
    Brahmos speed is 2.8Mach to 5Mach but it doesn't matter the interceptors we have like Spada2000+ have speed of 3-4 Mach and HQ-18 also have speed of 4Mach stealth is more important than speed.
     
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    Re: IS The Babus Cruise Missile better than Brahmos?

    Where we need speedy destruction we can use Abdali ballistic missile range 180-290km and speed of 3-4mach (just a guess).
     
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    I lol'd. The BrahMos is derived from the Oniks. It's a JV between India and Russia. Indians have ethics unlike you know who I'm talking about. Even though we can't make most our own equipment, we atleast don't blatantly rip designs and other things off and just add a new name.

    Making a new thread to compare these two missiles was a very bad idea. Comparing the Babur to the Nirbhay would have been a better idea. The Brahmos was designed as an anti-ship missile and not as a cruise missile while the Babur was.
     
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