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IVC may pre-date Egypt's pharoahs: Ancient society is 2,500 years older than thought

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    https://tamilandvedas.com/2014/12/20/tamil-and-sanskrit-rewrite-linguistics-theory/

    Tamil and Vedas

    A blog exploring themes in Tamil and vedic literature
    Tamil and Sanskrit: Rewrite Linguistics Theory
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    Tamil and Sanskrit: Rewrite Linguistics Theory

    Research paper written by London Swaminathan
    Research article No.1502; Dated 20th December 2014.

    People who don’t know Tamil and Sanskrit have written lot of theories in Linguistics. Once they know all the rules governing Sandhi (joining rules for words or phrases) rules in Tamil and Sanskrit, they will reconsider their theories. People wrote that Aryans got X sound after mingling with the Dravidians and Dravidians got Y sound after coming into contact with the Aryans etc. They fixed their own point in a circle and called it as the starting point. People who know what a circle is know there is no starting point or finishing point. It is in your mind that you fix a point. In the same way they said that Aryans came with Sanskrit from somewhere in Europe and Dravidians came with Tamil from the Mediterranean. But once you change the starting point as India, all their linguistic theories fall like pack of cards. They will crumble into powder.

    Somewhere I read that Aryans had D sound only and then they got soft L sound from Dravidians. But this D/L or R/L changes are natural. They are in Tamil itself:

    Pal+Podi = Parpodi (tooth + powder= tooth powder)L=R
    Kal+Kudiyan = Katkudiyan (Toddy+Drinker= toddy drinker)L=T
    Kan+Sevi = Katsevi (snake)N=T
    There are hundreds of examples like this.

    Whatever the linguists explain as changes due to two language speakers coming in to contact with each other are happening in the language itself!
    There are scores of changes occurring in Tamil itself. In Sanskrit language Sandhi rules is a big chapter, a must for all Sanskrit students.

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    We know that Sanskrit has sister languages in Europe. Once you know that Indians moved from Ganges plains to Europe then all the words are explained. In the same way we see lot of words in Greek (which according to those linguists a language related to Indo-European in turn to Indo Aryan languages) from Tamil. I have given a long list of Tamil words in Greek in one of my previous articles; I can give a few now

    Clepto=Kalavu (Theft)
    Tele=Tolai (Long)
    Paleo= Pazaiya (old)
    Mega = Ma (big)
    Terra= Tarai (Terrain)
    Cota=Sutta (burnt)
    Odo=Odu (run)
    Nereids=Neer (water)
    Oryza= Arisi (Rice)
    Ginger=Inji (Zingibera)
    Hora= Orai (Hour)
    Yavanika = (Ezini) Curtain
    Even before Alexander invaded the North West of India, we see Greek/Tamil words. So it has nothing to do with Alexander’s invasion.

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    There are thousands of English words similar to Tamil. No linguistics theory can explain them ( I have one note book full of such words. Sathur Sekaran from Tamil Nadu was interviewed by me at the BBC Tamil Service in London in the 1990s on his book with the same theme). Once we know that all the major languages are related either to Sanskrit or Tamil, then there is no explanation needed.

    Indian Civilization Originated in the East

    Ganges is referred to in the oldest part of the Rig Veda. Hindus named East as Purva Disa. All words with the same sound mean ‘the oldest’ , ‘the beginning’, ‘the first’. If some asked you what is your Purvikam? It means what is your origin? Pura means ‘once upon a time’, ‘Purana. means old story, Purva means East, Purvika= ancestry, Purva Disa= East, East belongs to Indra. East is called Direction of Indra.

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    Dravid Maharashtra

    I read a review for a booklet titled “Dravid Maharashtra” (Marathi book by Vishwanath Khaire, published by Sadhna Prakashan, Shaniwar Peth, Pune-30) in 1978. It is about place names in Maharashtra which are similar to Dravidian place names. The author examined a large number of place names in Maharashtra and traced them back to their Tamil origin. He argued that Maharashtra may be the missing link between the Aryan and Dravidian cultures. I have read similar articles linking lot of place names in Pakistan and Afghanistan to Tamil names. No wonder people find link with Sanskrit or Tamil place names around the world. Adri Rishi’s name with Adriatic Sea, Kasyapa Rishi’s name with Caspian Sea, Kashyapa Rishi’s name in Kashmir, Agastya’s name with Augustus, Iran’s name with Arya, Syria’s name with Surya, Lebanon’s name with Lavana (salty white), Laos name with Lava etc.

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    We have proof for all these things; but only westerners refused to accept them as proof because they thought we all came into India like them (British,French , Portuguese and the Dutch). This theory suited their political ends. Even when they found out Vedic names in the Cunieform tablet in Turkey dated 1400 BCE, even when they found Dasaratha’s name in Amarna letters of Egypt, even when they found Sanskrit Horse Manual in Syria/Turkey, they never included them in the text books in India but included a scores of chapters about their own reformation to civilize Indians!!

    Indian scholars, who were after big jobs at high level in the British ruled India, played second fiddle to them. When you change the theory that Indians went out from the subcontinent to spread culture and civilization, then everything falls in its place. Horse originated in India is the latest theory. Indians were the pioneers in iron and steels in the ancient world. So, you change the date for all these things and then their theories will bite the dust.

    Moses has no proof! Raging Controversy!

    Without any historical or archaeological proof for Moses they have founded three great Semitic religions. Still they were debating whether Moses existed. His name is repeated 136 times in Quran. There is a raging controversy in British and American newspapers every week about Moses because a new film is being released on 26th December, 2014 .

    All the mysterious links with Tamil and Sanskrit are explained logically once you change the dates and starting point. No one needs to accept Western dates. If everything needs to be supported by archaeology their religions will disappear, their literature would have no date. Max Muller fixed 200 year rule only for Vedic language. If you apply the same rule to Greek and Tamil, the dates for their literature will crumble like powder. No date for Homer and Tokappian will pass the litmus test.

    In short you can challenge the Western theories in every respect. You can pay them by their own coin.
     
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    Rig Veda describes what an Arya means and it is used 36 times in Rig Veda. whenever we talk of AIT, you can easily identify the people who support it with south India/dalit samaj. They love this nomenclature as it allows them to live as parasites of the society on others.
     
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    This is what I also argued that Tamil is the original language from which Sanskrit came out and that Tamil language was also called dravida or Prakrit. But somehow people who believe Nehru and British believe their version to be gospel truth. The way a river dries up away from it source so does language. If Sanskrit was a PIE language, the largest pool of this language should have been in Europe while it is not so. The largest pool of Sanskrit is in Tamil. Even my ancestor Dronacharya got his name from Tamil. Dronam means a vessel and Drona means a person born of a vessel. While Dranacharya is considered to be from a fmily of so called invading Aryans. Dronacharya was not born from the womb of a mother but was conceived and delivered from a Dronam.
     
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    @mods, you blanking off hindi word for lower castes is not correct especially when they have been so named in our constitution and by supreme court of India and more than anything else, these people love to call themselves one to avail of all the free stuff from government.
     
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    That there is no doubt about the word " Arya " and it's use in Rig Veda we should try and draw some inference on the subject of AIT straightway.
    If you really consider the Rig Veda, Is there any comparable landmass similar in description anywhere in Central Asia ?


    Secondly reading up the last 4 pages 1 have a few pointers and queries.

    Which is considered more decisive in development of a race , the natural selection postulates or the genetic makeup ?
    In other words i want to know which affects phenotype more : nature or genes ( over thousands of years - variation needs time ) ? The answer to this might explain the differences noticed between phenotype of North and South India.
     
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    This classification of people based on Varna system was misread and misunderstood by British as a classification based on the skin color. That became the basis of Aryan-Dravid divide theory and also politics in India. In IN I have come across many Keralite Nairs, Menons and others who were as fair as the people from hills of India and same is true about Tamilnadu and Andhra or Maharashtra. For some reason people of south have been described as people of dark complexion while the truth is that the percentage of light skin color is nearly uniform across North and South India.
    There is no land mass anywhere in the world with seven rivers so closely packed as in the plains of Haryana and Punjab which was the area fed by Saraswati River and where the Vedas were written.
    Natural selection is process which is very prevalent in animal kingdom and plants and it is applicable to a large extent to human beings also.
     
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    Varna system was always about Classification of jobs based the ability of an individual. Karl Marx wrote the same thing and that became the basis of Communism. Jobs as per ones ability. But then how could commies except that they have brought nothing new to table except re-package what has been a tradition in India. So they started the game of making fun of Hinduism.
     
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