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J-10A/B Vanguard.

Discussion in 'China & Asia Pacific' started by Tailchopper, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Gessler

    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    And Rafale has serrated edges and more RAM as well.

    Inlet isn't the only thing, the blades are only visible from specific angles, from absolute
    front-on, F-16 inlet is also curved :

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    To see the fan blades, you have to obtain and maintain a specific angle with respect to the plane :

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    But from such specific angles, even J-10A fan blades will be visible -

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    Plus :-

    > F-16 does not have canards like J-10A in the front
    > F-16 inlet area is much cleaner than J-10A, no struts etc.

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    > F-16 canopy is frameless in the front and usually comes with a gold tint, both features
    are lacking on J-10A.

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    > J-10A refueling probe is not retractable and sits right on the nose, while F-16's probe is
    on the dorsal hump and can be concealed.

    So yes, what makes you think J-10A is stealthier than F-16?

    In spite of all these, Rafale manages to score better than any operational F-16 variant in
    having lesser RCS figures (as well as lesser IR signature, EM signature), but about the
    J-10A? I'm not so sure...
     
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  2. Antonius

    Antonius Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Dont be biass.

    Rafale has big frontal gap and many more than J-10A. Thats why Eurofighter is stealthier.

    Rafale's fan blade is also visible from a certain angle.

    And who said F-16 is cleaner than J-10 or Eurofighter typhoon? :lol:


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    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Hmmm, my diagnosis, F16 is stealthier if you take into account straight level flight and overall body bits that stick out, J-10A is more "lumpy", not to mention that J-10A has canards and will make deflections when the canards move while the F16 has its wings that will be shielding its tail surface in very little deflections. HOWEVER, I see that the J-10A is stealthier from an angle compared to the F16 because its underside is more square. So, I give F16 good stealth for head on and J-10A for angled stealth. You could also add the fact that J-10A has an intake with an angled front would make up for the struts.
     
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    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    In what situation will you actually be going in a perfect straight line towards a radar?
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    How many times will you keep posting a biased image again and again even after it has been debunked? You
    are hopelessly holding on to this image for dear life.

    Most of the points in that pic are a straightforward LIE and are made to show J-20 in superior light, not J-10A.

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    ^^ Invalid points are highlighted in white

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    G777 Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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  7. Antonius

    Antonius Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Please elaborate the said debunked points with reason.

    Anyway u are asking the J-10A frontal RCS vs F-16, not Rafale. I BELIEVE Rafale frontal RCS is lower than J-10A, but not than J-10B/C.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    lol.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    lol.
     
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    http://www.indiandefence.com/forums...-dassault-rafale-analysis-885.html#post368049

    Problem understanding simple English? I was asking J-10A v/s Rafale with reference to F-16.

    Well then, I guess I MADE YOU BELIEVE that Rafale frontal RCS is lower
    than J-10A. Because earlier you said : -

    Source: http://www.indiandefence.com/forums/china/3257-j-10a-b-vanguard-14.html#ixzz2uii7253X

    The context of the topic was J-10A, and you made the above remark out of your ass.
     
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    Gessler Mod MODERATOR

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    [MENTION=10361]randomradio[/MENTION]

    Yeah, "lol" :pleasantry:

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  12. Antonius

    Antonius Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I guess you are referring to post no #13274, but I saw many empty claims there, and your claims had been debunked too in that thread.

    And I also saw you were demonstrating fanboyism opinion there with masturbating mentality, like claiming Rafale is stealthier than Pakfa or even J-20 :LMAO:


    LOL. Pretend to be amnesia?

    Gessler: "So yes, what makes you think J-10A is stealthier than F-16?"

    Source: http://www.indiandefence.com/forums/china/3257-j-10a-b-vanguard-16.html#ixzz2ujHZdNEK

    I have addressed your question about J-10A vs Rafale in term of frontal LO.


    LOL. Having problem with simple English? :lol:

    The context is : J-10A/B Vanguard! Why u change as u like and forbid me to give my own opinion?

    I see your 2 problems, one is already mentioned before, the second is related to dishonesty/bias mind. :lol:
     
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    [MENTION=10763]Antonius[/MENTION] Thanks for the laugh. Next time I need a rib-tickle, I'll let you know.

    Have you heard Putin maybe going to attack the Ukraine, I'll be going after that.
     
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    LOL :lol:
     
  15. halloweene

    halloweene Major MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Final judgement on Rafale come from datafusion. Not any of the sensors.

    example : passive shooting backwards 20 NMs away by JR Vianney Riller Jr (link 16 wasn't involved btw).

    Oh btw, quoting pilots, RAfale has a smaller RCS than Typhoon...

    Mica range 50 Kms???
     

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