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Japan earthquake: updates

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Levina, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Well, putting reactors close to the coast is advised because it provides easy access to large quantities of seawater for use as coolant - crucial for preventing meltdowns, as well as other needs. Pretty much all of Japan is in a seismically active region, so as you said, there's not much they can do to put it out of the danger zone.

    However, when talking of this topic, it's important to remember that even in the massive 2011 event, so many people died because of the tsunami+earthquake. No one died because of the radiation. Reactor safety mechanisms have come a long way since the Chernobyl incident in the 80s - which remains the only real nuclear disaster that ever caused any loss of human life. The only problem we need to worry about is the potential damage to the environment as a result of fallout. This problem also has been largely addressed as modern reactor complexes are designed to contain as much radiation as possible within themselves - this is where having access to virtually unlimited quantities of seawater helps.

    If the coolant is cut off (possible if the reactor is deeper inland), it can lead to a much worse problem.
     
  2. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    It's true there were no immediate radiation deaths, but there are likely going to be many deaths down the road along with other serious long term ramifications, mainly due to proximity of the plant to the ocean and the serious resulting contamination.
     
  3. T-123456

    T-123456 2nd Lieutant THINKER

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    Its the culture,they never give up.
    Im a big fan of japan and its people.
     
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  4. Nilgiri

    Nilgiri Lieutenant GEO STRATEGIC ANALYST

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    Well the European jews almost got wiped out completely as a people. They are thus still in "grab throat right away, we have no choice" mode for any adversary, even potential ones.

    So yeah it stems from a certain psychology in their case to large degree....the 2000 year torment in ghettos and repeated pogroms since the romans ransacked their original country not long after the babylonians did.....with the final artificial armageddon when they were spread and dispersed in WW2 that we all know about so well.

    You can say the Israeli national motto is unofficially "Never Again"....they are a democracy but none of their political parties question this basic tenet.

    They are a special case. Japan's is more general.

    Back to the reactor talk, there is esentially no problem with having a reactor in an earthquake prone zone. You just have to make sure its a CANDU style ultimate passive safety (when power shut off) and not a BWR, PWR or any type of LWR basically....no matter what is written on the brochure regarding theoretical production/cost (which is where I feel the Japanese in the 70s got seduced along with strong lobbying from the US as opposed to Canada which effectively could only watch from sidelines).

    PHWR/CANDU is always the way to go in sensitive geographies imho.
     
  5. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    As I said, in a situation where everything is rigged to go wrong...it won't matter where the reactor is. If it's close to water, it might contaminate the marine life...if it's inland, it could contaminate the soil and land.

    However, having it close to water goes a long way toward ensuring that nothing goes wrong in the first place!

    Reactor complexes already take all precautions they should, and the engineering aspect of their construction & location is well thought-out. Nothing to change - the only way to go from here is FORWARD...toward better-designed containment mechanisms and safer operating materials.

    The alternatives to nuclear power are neither as efficient, nor as safe to the environment as some people say they are. Methods like Coal for production of electricity not only heavily deplete natural resources, but their operation throws up impossible amounts of CO2 and other pollutants on a daily basis - nuclear power damages the environment only IF something goes wrong - like reactor not properly built/operated, nuclear waste not properly disposed etc. Burning of coal-fired plants damage the environment as a RULE. Solar power, while relatively clean, is not efficient enough at the moment. Hydro cannot fill the need all by itself.

    Go Nuclear!
     
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