Japan-India Relationship

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  1. sanman
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    I think that India and Japan need to coordinate more on SouthEast Asia / IndoChina. There must be justice for the people of Cambodia, with regards to the horrors inflicted upon them by the Khmer Rouge. The culprits must be brought to justice, and the Khmer Rouge must be punished. Even if the current govt of Cambodia has to be brought down, the ruling Khmer Rouge officials cannot be allowed to escape justice.
     
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    I dont think the Japanese govt. would interfere in any other nation's internal affairs. They may impose bans, trade embargoes but nothing more. Other than that, we need the Japanese conglomerates to replicate their model for China in India... mass scale manufacturing for their products.
    Strategically, us doing more regular joint-exercises, joint patrolling would be nice.

    And please God o God ask some good Japanese chefs to bring good Japanese sea-food (sans the whale meat) to India. In Delhi I can only think of two good Japanese restaurants, and they both are ridiculously over-priced!
     
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    Japanese model can't be so easily replicated when spoiled Indian trade unionists try to riot against factory owners.

    And then Manmoron Singh is trying to kiss the butts of these rioters by trying to scold the Japanese. He's such a toadie - no guts.

    Yes, we all understand that Indians want free money, and hope that Japan will bankroll India with loans, as it did with China. But not all places are ready for such money, because some will just swallow it up and then default. Places like Gujarat, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand are better. Forget UP and Bihar - they should be handed over to Pakistan.
     
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    completely agree with you on these 2.

    First, Japan has been giving India loans for nearly 5 decades now, all of them for infrastructural development, DMRC is a prime example of such projects. Secondly, Japan did not bankroll China for development, they actually came there to set up factories in the SEZs set up by the Chinese govt. all the infrastructure was built by China. US did play an important role in their development after normalizing relations in 74. China followed the policy of build first and people will come, which has born fruit extensively, whereas in India we have come here and if we feel like it we'll let you build (or you gotta make sure our pockets are filled first)

    Gujarat and TN are very progressive when it comes to working with corporates, but Haryana, the state ruled by B.S. Hooda who is arguably amongst the most corrupt politicians in India, is not.

    I feel we need to drop the socialism from our constitution for there is no such thing as a mixed economy, you are either capitalist or socialist, and we have lived with socialism for quiet a while now, time to welcome capitalism with a free and liberalized market.

    And your last point I strongly disagree with... UP, Bihar (Bihar is one of the fastest growing state in India) though extremely backwards and spoilt are still states of our nation, we need to reform them. Its just like having kids... if one's kids were bad, they would'nt simply discard them. To even have such a thought is against our national unity, for we are a nation of unity in diversity!
     
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    Bihar is better now due to JD-BJP collaboration, but it's climbing up from a deep well. And it was the local population which dug that well and threw themselves into it. Once development reaches a certain threshold, there's always the chance that people will get nostalgic and want to throw themselves in the well again.

    As for UP, heh, Madame-ji is busily setting her sights on Prime Ministership - because like the ponzi-schemer she is, she needs to quickly move her movement onto the next big cause, before everyone sees that she did nothing for the last cause. Typical example of the socialist compulsion for expansionism.

    http://articles.economictimes.india.../27389487_1_japan-plans-populous-nation-china

    As for China and Japan - certainly Japan has extended all kinds of loan assistance to China over the decades. I don't know why they helped bankroll their rival -- their idiot LDP are just stooges for foreign interests like the trilateralists. The LDP has fatally damaged the future of their country, because the LDP politicians obviously care more about themselves than about their country.
     
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    Antony leaves for Japan to further defence ties

    New Delhi: Defence Minister AK Antony on Tuesday left for Japan on a daylong visit when he is expected to explore opportunities for furthering the bilateral military relations in global and regional security matters, maritime security, anti-piracy operations, counter-terrorism and humanitarian assistance.

    During his stay in Tokyo on Wednesday, Antony will meet with Japan's Defence Minister Yasuo Ichikawa when these issues will figure prominently in the talks, Defence Ministry spokesperson Sitanshu Kar, who is accompanying the minister, said here on Tuesday.

    "Both sides will also discuss cooperation between the armed forces of both countries in the fields of humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, training and cooperation in United Nations peacekeeping operations and other bilateral exchanges," Kar said.

    Cooperation through regional and multilateral fora like the ASEAN Defence Ministers Meeting Plus (ADMM+) will also be discussed during the meeting between the two ministers, Kar added.

    Antony is being accompanied by a high-level delegation that includes Defence Secretary Shashikant Sharma, Vice Chief of Naval Staff Vice Admiral RK Dhowan and Army Central Command General Officer Commanding-in-Chief Lt Gen VK Ahluwalia.

    Antony's visit comes at the invitation of his counterpart, who had visited India in April last year.

    India and Japan have robust bilateral defence relations, with the two navies and coast guard regularly conducting exercises on maritime security issues and also their respective warships making frequent calls at each other's ports, apart from their cooperation during anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden.

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    Japan, India to begin joint naval military training

    Indian Defense Minister A. K. Antony is making a brief visit to Japan to consolidate an increasingly intimate bilateral relationship. Here he was greeted by his Japanese counterpart, Defense Minister Yasuo Ichikawa and allowed to inspect the Honor Guard.

    Antony's visit symbolizes the growing links between these two Asian nations.

    Until the 1990s, the Japanese military always used to stay at home, but now they are seen more and more around the world.

    One of the places the Japanese navy is now seen is in the Indian Ocean and the Gulf of Aden, where they have been deployed on a Somali anti-piracy mission since early 2009.

    During these talks between the two militaries, the spotlight was being put on a new initiative by which the Japanese and Indian navies would begin unprecedented bilateral joint military drills.

    As the Indian media is reporting, the military link between Japan and India has been continuously promoted by Japan's former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, and the new Japanese prime minister appears to share much of his conservative philosophy.

    Yoshimasa Hayashi, a former defense minister and now a opposition party lawmaker, spoke to Press TV about a conversation he had with a ruling party lawmaker.

    The conservative trend in Japan by which security policies are prioritized is well reflected in Japan's growing engagement with the Indian armed forces.

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    Japan, India agree on 1st bilateral naval exercise in 2012

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    TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Defense ministers of Japan and India agreed during talks Wednesday to hold the first bilateral naval exercise involving the two countries next year, Japanese Defense Ministry officials said.

    The accord reached between Defense Minister Yasuo Ichikawa and his Indian counterpart A.K. Antony reflects Japan's desire to boost bilateral defense cooperation with India in view of China's growing maritime assertiveness.

    Details such as the timing of the exercise between Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force and the Indian navy will be worked out in future discussions, the officials said.

    During their talks at the Defense Ministry in Tokyo, the two ministers also agreed on Ichikawa's visit to India sometime in 2012, the officials said.

    Ichikawa was quoted as telling his Indian counterpart, "Deepening defense cooperation between Japan and India will lead to peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region."

    Antony told Ichikawa that India's relations with Japan are its priority and it would like to strengthen such ties, according to the officials.

    The two ministers also underscored the importance of the international community in protecting the safety of sea lanes, the officials said.

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    They also discussed the issue surrounding the South China Sea, which is the source of territorial disputes between China and a number of its Asian neighbors.

    With the MSDF boosting ties with the Indian navy, Japan's Ground Self-Defense Force and Air Self-Defense Force will also promote dialogue with their Indian counterparts, the officials said.

    The Self-Defense Forces have conducted joint exercises respectively with the United States, Australia, South Korea and Russia. With India, Japan held goodwill naval exercises under a trilateral framework with the United States in 2007.

    On the occasion of the Japan-India summit talks in December 2009, the two countries agreed to hold bilateral naval exercises, but this has since failed to materialize.

    (Mainichi Japan) November 3, 2011


    Japan, India agree on 1st bilateral naval exercise in 2012 - The Mainichi Daily News
     
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    India-Japan ties to become stronger

     
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    Japan pushing 'southern corridor' linking Vietnam and Myanmar

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    NUSA DUA, Indonesia--Japan's pledge to provide 2 trillion yen ($26.1 billion) in infrastructure construction support to ASEAN is intended to pave the way for a "southern corridor" that would connect southern Vietnam with Myanmar (Burma).

    Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's promise to provide funding will be a boon for Japanese companies seeking to move into India.

    The proposed link would improve distribution networks between India and Japan with the construction of roads and ports.

    Of the 33 major infrastructure projects that Japan will help fund, six are closely related to the southern corridor.

    The idea is to link Ho Chi Minh City in southern Vietnam with Phnom Penh in Cambodia and Bangkok in Thailand, and end up at the Dawei Seaport in Myanmar, which faces the Indian Ocean.

    If maritime routes can be established to link Japan with Ho Chi Minh City and Dawei with India, ships headed to and from Japan would not have to go out of their way to pass through the Malacca Straits, a major maritime transport base that is rife with piracy.

    New routes would heighten safety and decrease the time and cost of shipping.

    The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, which is taking a leading role in infrastructure export policy, is aggressively seeking ways for Japanese manufacturers to set up bases in India, a vast market with high annual growth.

    "If a parts supply chain could be established between Japan and India through the southern corridor, Japanese parts manufacturers would reap huge benefits," said a high-ranking ministry official.

    A major point for the corridor's construction will be the development of the economic special zone at Dawei in Myanmar, which currently has no overland routes to Thailand.

    Economy minister Yukio Edano met Nov. 18 with Tin Naing Thein, Myanmar's minister of national planning and economic development, to discuss the development of Dawei. According to ministry officials, both agreed that the project was of high importance.

    At the ASEAN summit meeting, Noda said, "We will work together on studies for the development of economic special zones in line with requests from Myanmar."

    Japan pushing 'southern corridor' linking Vietnam and Myanmar - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun
     
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    Even in the late 1980s when I had the pleasure and privilege of working closely with eminent Japanese, such as the late Dr. Saburo Okita (see here and here and here), once a key intermediary between Japan's politicians, government and businesses with America and indeed the rest of the world, I came to recognize the depth of passion for Japan that existed in a generation that saw the nation reduced to embers following relentless bombing in an avoidable war. At one time, Dr. Okita headed some 80 committees and think tanks, including his own Institute for Domestic and International Policy Studies, after his term as Foreign Minister of Japan in the Masayashi Ohira cabinet. But that passion for Japan seems to have dissipated remarkably in a new generation that has grown accustomed to monthly paychecks and the notion of "corporate and government salarymen and salarywomen." Some of those salarymen bristle at the suggestion that Japan is in serious risk of slipping in specific sectors vis-a-vis multiple countries in Asia itself, including China, Korea, India and Vietnam. Yet outside observers continue the drumbeat of the grim reminder that all is not well with Japan.

    In the midst of this national doom and gloom, occurred the horrendous twin-tragedies of the catastrophic tsunami, and the continuing nuclear calamity of Fukushima. The whole world stood horrified and, as expected, the Japanese wiped away their tears and got to work to rebuild.

    But on the economy, amidst a rapidly declining population, one of the key factors in a nation's GDP, that is already discernible in rural areas where some places resemble ghost towns, beyond the obvious hand-wringing, what indeed can be done? How can individuals and companies be encouraged to take innovative steps? Everywhere one hears complaints of the inertia fed by the apparent certainty of the monthly pay-check that has lulled much of the bureaucracy and indeed corporations into the false belief that "business as usual" will go on forever.

    For a start, Japanese embassies can become much more interactive with the Japanese community abroad. Unlike the Indian Embassy in Washington D.C., for instance, where the Indian community is invited to meet with the visiting Indian Prime Minister, the Japanese Embassy does little similar. Most Prime Ministers in India, even those who are ridiculed at urban coffee houses, are generally inspiring people who are trying their best. Prime Minister Noda of Japan won a keenly contested Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) election to become Prime Minister, and before that he was someone who in years past was a daily-morning speaker at the local railway station at his constituency, whether he won in a particular election or not. Mr. Noda is visiting India in December 2011 and a parallel development would have seen the Indian Embassy in Washington DC scrambling to relate to Indian-Americans and Indian community groups to ensure that those who are making effort on India-U.S. relations, in every walk of life, were able to be at the event in honor of the Indian Prime Minister. Where is the similar effort at the Japanese Embassy in New Delhi? Indeed, the Indian community in the U.S. was central in the efforts to get the U.S. to change its perceptions of India to the prevailing one where India is regarded as a rising economic power and much of the inroads into the U.S. information technology industry, perhaps the real first success story for India in the era of the global economy, occurred because of the efforts of Indians in the U.S., especially those who had previously worked in U.S. corporations in IT roles.

    2012 marks the 60th anniversary of the establishment of India-Japan diplomatic relations, and it will give a fitting opportunity for joint learning on the best of each country, and there is much to learn from both countries, especially on the immediate post-War years in Japan, and the current vibrant India. For a start, we at the Global India Foundation are organizing a Seminar February 14-15, 2012 at the India International Centre, New Delhi, on Japan and Asia. We expect an advance on the building of those key bridges between India and Japan that will benefit both countries and their peoples in this "Century of Asia."
     
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    Japanese firm puts Tibet in India

    A map drawn by a Japanese firm shows Tibet as part of India. The cartograph also shows China's southwestern Yunnan province as belonging to India, according to the web news portal wantchinatimes.com on Monday.
    The map was made by Daiwa Securities Group as part of its business proposal to the People Insurance Company of China (PICC).
    PICC officials who found the error have asked Daiwa to modify the map and make a formal apology.

    They also reported the matter to the China Securities Regulatory Commission and the China Insurance Regulatory Commission, which are currently discussing the next course of action, Daiwa said the error was 'negligent' but some security experts pointed out it cannot be excused just as 'unprofessionalism'.

    Guess the Japanese sent some feelers. :D
     
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    TOKYO (Kyodo) -- India's Railway Ministry said Thursday it has selected a Japanese-led consortium to conduct a prefeasibility study for one of its six proposed high-speed rail corridors across the country.

    The contract for the prefeasibility study for one of the two southern corridors has been given to a consortium comprising Japan Railway Technical Service and Oriental Consultants Co., both based in Tokyo, and Parsons Brinckerhoff India, a spokesman for the ministry said.

    The consortium is expected to submit its report to the government in seven months, he said.

    The spokesman's confirmation came after Minister of State for Railways K.H. Muniyappa said Thursday in a written reply to a question in parliament that out of six corridors, consultants for four have been selected and studies are at various stages of progress.

    Muniyappa also noted that the Railways Ministry has also decided to set up a National High-Speed Rail Authority for planning, standard setting, implementing and monitoring of high-speed rail projects.
     
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    ^^^ one of the southern corridors is Hyderabad-Chennai.. The Japs are studying the Feasibility of High speed tracks..
     

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