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Kalvari Class Submarines - Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by flanker143, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Thanks and the report confirms to some extend what I thought:

    So unless there will be a range limited version, this missiles might not be on offer for export countries, which gives the Russians some advantages. They can offer their Amur class with Brahmos, or with AIP + Klub missiles.
     
  2. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Or may be India will ask who could integrate K15 on board. Sub launched Brahmos is also a good option.
     
  3. Agent_47

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    guys is this news true?
    is the price increment is due to penalty for india?
     
  4. MAFIAN GOD

    MAFIAN GOD Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    This is the penalty for India because GoI,MoD and Navy failed to order and procure the required things in time and then the prizes for raw materials gone up and hence prizes increased.
     
  5. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I bet there will CAG hammering on this as well.
     
  6. arulcharles

    arulcharles Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I heard that some corruption occurred in the Scorpion Submarines tender process

    Is it true?

    I hope like this should not happen in any other coming process , Especially in MMRCA
     
  7. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Scorpenes are the best deal even if they come at a slight premium. They are one of the most advanced conventional submarines available and their hull is made of the same steel of which the french nuclear submarines are built.

    I always believed the scorpenes should have had an option to get equipped with Brahmos instead of exocets. Its range of strike would have got enhanced five times atleast.
     
  8. ManuSankar

    ManuSankar Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    DCNS India delivers to MDL the first locally produced Scorpene submarines equipments

    The delivery, managed by DCNS India, was achieved on time, meeting all the stringent quality standards required for on-board use on a submarine (100% quality compliance).

    The shipyard Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) has received the first Indian made equipment for the Scorpene submarines programme (P75). MDL has congratulated this successful industrial performance during the recently held Government to Government (G2G) meeting between India and France.

    MDL is producing six SSK Scorpene submarines (P75) under transfer of technology (ToT) from DCNS. Simultaneously, DCNS India*, DCNS Group’s subsidiary in India, is working at the selection and qualification of Indian companies as partners for local production of the Scorpenes’ equipments.

    In June 2011, DCNS India has signed a contract with Flash Forge India Pvt. Ltd. under the Scorpene submarines programme (P75). “We are providing our Indian partners with know-how and technical assistance to manufacture equipments which will be installed onboard the Scorpenes. Together with MDL, we are qualifying the suitable companies which are meeting the rigorous specifications needed for the submarinesâ€, reminded Bernard Buisson, Managing Director of DCNS India.

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    Scorpene class submarine, Royal Malaysian Navy

    The Factory Acceptance Test (FAT) for the first locally made Scorpenes’ equipment (for the large scale piping system) was successfully performed at Flash Forge premises in Vishakapatnam in January 2012.

    The success of the manufacture and delivery of this first indigenisation contract with Flash Forge India Pvt. Ltd. is the culmination of a long and stringent process, involving:
    • Preliminary audits of the manufacturing and quality processes, performed by experts from DCNS France;
    • Certification of the prototypes to three different laboratories, including a DCNS laboratory for Naval Material and Structures, in order to validate the good manufacturing of the equipment;
    • Frequent interactions between Flash Forge and DCNS teams during the manufacturing process.

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    The first locally made Scorpenes’ equipment (for the large scale piping system)

    This delivery is especially significant since the quality of each equipment onboard submarines contribute to the overall safety of the crew on board and of the ship performance. Flash Forge has already proven experiences in forgings and pipe fittings with MDL and other Indian shipyards. Today, through the participation in the P75 Scorpene submarines, higher standards of qualifications have been achieved.

    Bernard Buisson said, “Given the relative small quantities of each material to be manufactured, DCNS is looking for long term partnerships. And each potential industrial partner needs to demonstrate a willingness to invest in the required specific infrastructure development. We are very pleased with commitment shown by Flash Forgeâ€.

    The same comprehensive selection method is under way for other equipments and more contracts with Indian partners will be announced shortly.

    DCNS India delivers to MDL the first locally produced Scorpene submarines equipments
     
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  9. Wolf 9

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    First Local Kit For Indian Scorpenes Arrives
    WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 29, 2012.

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    The P75 Scorpene attack submarine lincense build programme at Mazagon Docks Ltd (MDL) has received its first consignment of locally produced submarine equipment, a delivery managed by DCNS India, a subsidiary of the European boatmaker.

    MDL is in the process of license-building six Scorpenes under transfer of technology (ToT) from DCNS.

    In June 2011, DCNS India signed a contract with Flash Forge India Pvt. Ltd. “We are providing our Indian partners with know-how and technical assistance to manufacture equipments which will be installed onboard the Scorpenes. Together with MDL, we are qualifying the suitable companies which are meeting the rigorous specifications needed for the submarines”, DCNS India MD Bernard Buisson said in a statement released today.

    According to the statement, the Factory Acceptance Test (FAT) for the first locally made Scorpene’s equipment (for the large scale piping system) was successfully performed at Flash Forge premises in Visakhapatnam in January 2012. The selection process is under way for other equipment -- additional contracts with Indian firms will be announced shortly, DCNS has said.

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  10. smestarz

    smestarz Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    And an interesting point is the scorpene Scam.. is this the right forum to put the details?

    Top 10 Corruption Scams in India - Yahoo! Lifestyle India

    4. Scorpene Submarine Scam

    Top 10 Corruption Scams in India

    Cost: Rs 18,978 crores

    Face of the Scam: Ravi Shankaran

    The Scorpene submarines scam was one of the biggest corruption scandals faced by the country and including the navy. In the scandal, secret Navy documents were sold to the makers of the Scorpene submarine. The Indian government had approved the 19,000 crore submarine deal with the French company. The purchase of six Scorpene submarines cost the Indian government a lot more than its actual price.
     
  11. SpArK

    SpArK SorCeroR Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    Scorpene sub to be ready by 2015


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    HYDERABAD India is expected to commission its first Scorpene submarine, being developed by French naval construction group DCNS, by 2015, said Federal Minister of State for Defence MM Pallam Raju here on Monday.

    State-owned Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) is producing six SSK Scorpene submarines (P75) under transfer of technology from DCNS. Simultaneously, DCNS India, its Indian subsidiary, is working on the selection of Indian companies as partners for local production of the Scorpene’s equipment.

    We are expecting the first submarine to roll out by 2015. We should have all the submarines by 2018. The total cost is little over Rs200 billion,” Raju said.

    As per the schedule, hulks of six submarines, considered as a critical part, should be manufactured by the end of the year, he said.

    To a query, he said India has got investments of Rs200 billion so far due to ‘Indian Defence Offset Policy’, that mandates foreign defence equipment suppliers to farm out a certain proportion of the work (30 per cent of the contract value) to Indian suppliers.

    Raju inaugurated the joint facility of city-based SEC Industries and DCNS that would make 14 critical components for the Scorpene, to be supplied to MDL.

    French Ambassador François Richier was also present.

    DCNS India signed a contract with SEC Industries for the manufacture of high technological equipment for the P75 Scorpene submarines in September 2011; second contract was signed in May this year for additional items.

    Bernard Buisson, Managing Director of DCNS India, said these contracts cover an extensive Transfer of Technology.

    Separately, India has started working on its second indigenous aircraft carrier even as the construction of the first one has been marred by delay of over two years.

    The Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC)-II would be the largest ship in terms of the weight and size to have ever been built by the navy, navy sources said in Kochi.


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  12. layman

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    DCNS France Opens New Facility for Scorpene Project, Seeks More JVS to Make Components Indigenously

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    The French shipbuilding major DCNS has opened a dedicated facility in Hyderabad in partnership with the local SEC Industries for making critical components for the Scorpene submarines. Besides, DCNS has also revealed that it is scouting for more Indian partners for joint ventures for manufacturing components for the roughly $ 4 billion Scorpene submarine project being developed with the DCNS technology.

    The latest facility was inaugurated by the Union Minister of State for Defence, Mr M.M. Pallam Raju and this facility at SEC industries in Hyderabad will be making 14 key components that can be fitted directly into the Scorpene submarines. The components include ballast vent valves, high pressure air cylinders, hull hatches and weapon handling systems. SEC is also ready to deliver the first of cofferdam door coamings for the submarines.

    A contract between DCNS India and SEC Industries worth $ 62 million was signed in March this year for the manufacture of equipment for the Scorpene project. SEC industries will manufacture the components under a TOT provided by DCNS India which will be forwarded to Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) to be integrated into the Scorpene submarines.

    DCNS India officials have indicated that the contract with SEC is part of the indigenization program implemented by DCNS India under the P75 Mazagon Purchased Materials (MPM) contracts. This will enable manufacturing in India and lay a foundation for developing strong industrial partnerships and capabilities for the submarine programs.

    Meanwhile, DCNS has restated that it is still looking for more tie-ups with Indian companies for production of equipment for Scorpene submarines. The French major has already entered into contracts with three Indian firms including Hyderabad-based SEC Industries and the intention is to indigenously produce around $75 million worth of equipment for the submarines through the JV route. Currently, about 30 local firms are on its radar as prospective partners.

    According to reports, the first of the Scorpene submarine will be rolled out from Mazagaon Dock by 2015 and following that, the roll-out of one submarine will happen every nine months. The entire delivery of submarines will be completed by 2018. Mazagaon Dock, which will deliver four submarines, has already achieved hull manufacturing capabilities through DCNS technology transfer. The shipbuilder is slated to complete the hulls for all the six submarines by the year end.
     
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    DCNS and SEC Industries achieve another milestone under the Indian Scorpene submarines programme
    07/17/2012 | 01:47pm US/Eastern

    DCNS SA : 2012/07/17


    Inauguration of new workshops & deliveries of indigenous equipment

    SEC Industries and DCNS today officially inaugurated new workshop facilities and delivered, after successful Factory Acceptance Tests, the cofferdam doors coamings for the Indian P75* Scorpene submarines.

    The facilities were inaugurated by Shri M.M. Pallam Raju, the Indian Honbl'e Minister of State for Defence, Government of India. French Ambassador to India, H.E. Mr. François Richier was present at the occasion along with other Indian senior dignitaries and officials.

    In September 2011, DCNS India** signed a contract with SEC Industries for the manufacture of for high technological equipment for the P75 Scorpene submarines. A second contract was signed in May 2012 for additional items. These contracts cover an extensive Transfer of Technology (TOT), today running at full speed. The contract is part of the indigenization programme implemented by DCNS India under the P75 Mazagon Purchased Materials (MPM) contracts.

    By helping SEC industries in building new industrial workshops and in delivering cofferdam coamings for Scorpene submarines, DCNS has achieved yet another milestone in its endeavour to manufacture indigenous products and equipments and provide transfer of technology under P75 Scorpene submarine programme.

    New industrial means

    Spread over 1500 sq. m., the workshop facility is integrated with modern capabilities for various manufacturing activities such as shotblasting, welding and painting. There are new CNC and conventional machines together with test and measurement fixtures - including a pit for under pressure testing. There is a temperature controlled area for the storage of specific equipment and material. The newly recruited technicians and engineers have dedicated offices (a mezzanine of 155 sqm) and training areas.



    D. Vidyasagar, Managing Director of SEC Industries said "We are happy to be part of the on-going indigenisation of the P75 programme. With the know-how, technical assistance and constant support provided by DCNS, we are happy to have developed these new facilities and delivered some major indigenous equipments for the Scorpene submarines."

    Bernard Planchais, Chief Operating Officer of DCNS developed "We started our technology transfers with MDL to help them achieve a degree of accuracy and quality at par with other major worldwide shipyards as far as pressure hull manufacturing is concerned. We are now concentrating our efforts to help MDL integrate equipment inside the submarines and assist our industrial partners to deliver in a timely manner to MDL the various indigenized equipment of the Scorpenes. DCNS wishes to enlarge its footprint in India, we are developing win-win industrial partnerships for the long term benefits of our customers."

    "The contract with SEC is part of the indigenization programme implemented by DCNS India under the P75 Mazagon Purchased Materials (MPM) contracts. Through this commitment to manufacture in India, we are developing strong industrial partnerships and capabilities for the P75 and future programmes." added Bernard Buisson, Managing Director of DCNS India.



    Deliveries of key equipments for the Indian Scorpenes

    Bernard Buisson explained "The building of workshop facilities and successful delivery of cofferdam doors coamings for Scorpene Submarines is a testimonial to our constant efforts towards indigenization of equipments for P75 Scorpene submarine programme through successfully implemented TOTs."

    Mr. Buisson added "The Factory Acceptance Test (FAT) for the first locally-made P75 cofferdam doors coamings was successfully performed at SEC Industries in June. The indigenized equipment were made as per the contractual quality requirements, and their delivery to our customer MDL ahead of schedule."

    The cofferdam doors and coamings are key safety components of the submarine. The cofferdam itself is a watertight enclosure; in case of incident, it can be used to isolate the flooded submarine part and proceed to the crew evacuation.

    DCNS SA : 2012/07/17 DCNS and SEC Industries achieve another milestone under the Indian Scorpene submarines programme
     
  14. kum

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    yes! scorpene is in delay. but Arihant is coming soon:devilwork::devilwork::devilwork:
     
  15. Steel

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    Indian Navy Submarines Delayed Until 2015


    Delivery of the Indian navy’s first Scorpene submarine has slipped two-and-a-half years to June 2015.

    “The original delivery schedule of the first submarine was December 2012 and remaining submarines were to be delivered with a gap of one year each,” Defense Minister A. K. Antony says. “Consequent to the approval of the government for revision in cost and delivery schedule in 2010, the delivery of the first submarine has been revised to June 2015 and that of the last (6th) submarine to September 2018.

    The 235.62-billion-rupee ($4.2 billion) effort to build six French Scorpene submarines at the state-owned Mazagon Docks is dubbed “Project-75.” The delay in construction is being attributed to problems with the absorption of new technology, delays in the augmentation of industrial infrastructure at MDL, and delays in the procurement of some items by MDL due to cost growth, the minister says.

    Antony says the Indian navy’s modernization priorities are the induction of frigates, destroyers, fast attack craft, submarines, surveillance aircraft, and aircraft carriers.

    In July 1999, the government approved a 30-year submarine building plan, which envisaged the induction of 12 new submarines in Phase-I (2000-2012) and another 12 in Phase-II (2012-2030).

    India’s indigenously built nuclear-powered submarine, the INS Arihant, soon will be setting off on sea trials. The over 6,000-ton Arihant sub will join the 8,000-ton INS Chakra, the former Russian Nerpa Akula II-class nuclear submarine that India took control on a 10-year lease in January 2012.


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