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Kamorta-class (Project-28) Corvettes : Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by desiman, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    let this ship come on active duty it will be one pak submarine killer, this thing looks cool....:whistle:
     
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    its p-28 ASW ship......its another photo is posted above..
     
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    BRAND NEW INDIAN ANTI-SUBMARINE WARSHIPS BEGIN SERVICE NEXT MONTH

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    The first of India's four brand new home-designed and built Project 28 anti-submarine warfare corvettes, Kamorta, enters service with the Indian Navy next month. The MoD's man in the east, Group Captain Tarun K Singha, a MiG-21 pilot whose been dedicated the publicity for the defence forces for the last few years, sent out this note on the new ships and the upcoming induction:


    There is visible alacrity seen in the frenetic activities onboard India's newly-built anti submarine warfare (ASW) corvette Kamorta docked at the fitting-out jetty (FOJ) of Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd. (GRSE), Kolkata, one of the four Defence Public Sector Undertaking (DPSU) shipyards in India.
    Kamorta, a super-sophisticated frontline warship with stealth features is readying to sail out from the GRSE FOJ to join the Indian Navy's Eastern
    Fleet in its role as Indian Navy's newest submarine hunter/killer.

    Known earlier by its GRSE 'Yard-3017' nomenclature where the keel was first laid and launched in 2010, the sturdy warship Kamorta is the first in its
    class of four ASW corvettes being built under Project-28 (P28) for the Indian Navy.

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    ASW corvettes Kadmatt, Kiltan and Kavaratti are to follow suit progressively.

    The lethal quartet will bring to easy recall names of the four islands in Andaman & Nicobar and Lakshwadeep archipelago after which
    they are named. They will be feared platforms for lurking enemy submarines and possibly their nemesis too when detected lurking in our
    territorial waters. They would also be deployed as advance screen for the Carrier Battle Group to counter any submarine threat to the force.
    Clearly, the rules of the game below sea-level are set to change drastically with no room for enemy submarines to manouevre.

    Meanwhile, Kamorta's designated Captain -- Commander Manoj Jha -- and the ship's company (officers and sailors) are meticulously
    carrying out checks of all systems and equipment onboard including the crucial gas-leak checks as per drills as the date for the formal
    acceptance of the warship from GRSE draws closer.

    The formal acceptance will take place in a ceremony -- D-448 Handing/taking Over -- later this month. The warship is slated to be
    commissioned by Indian Navy at Vishakhapatnam in July 2014, where significantly a nuclear submarine - Arihant - is also being built indigenously.

    Livefist: Brand New Indian Anti-Submarine Warships Begin Service Next Month

    @WMD @abhishek chanoria
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The pics show the limits of Indian naval stealth design, because we might be able to shape the hull, but can't fully integrate sensors and weapons in stealthy masts or missile pods and that's clearly counter-productive
     
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    Yeah, all three major designs of this generation (P-17 Shivalik, P-15A Kolkata, P-28 Kamorta) seem to have this bit of problem to varying
    extents. But the next generation should fully address this problem & more. The concepts of P-17A FFG shown are suggesting major improvement
    in this department. A fully integrated mast being the landmark.

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    Hopefully, although it still shows the RBU-6000 rockets in such an exposed way, we have to find better solutions for that. However, compared to current international alternatives, this design issues might be a problem. If you look at the fact that the indigenous naval industry is actually pretty good on developing and producing more and more vessels for IN, their export potential is surprisingly low isn't it? Do you know about any export of an indigenously developed vessel?
     
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    Well...

    GRSE Launches first export warship for Mauritius coast guard

    India to export warships to African countries

    There is no real major deal with a foreign navy. The reasons vary from bad marketing to inability of taking orders - the state-run shipyards are
    always jam-packed with indigenous orders and they take years & years to deliver on each of these orders itself, the next order will be placed directly
    thereafter, packing the yard up again.

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    Private companies are spending some good amount on building world-class shipyards such as L&T Kattupalli. On their own, private co.'s like
    L&T have exported a lot of cargo vessels/freighters etc. to countries from Middle East/Europe -

    L&T Shipbuilding

    L&T Shipbuilding delivers first commercial vessel to Qatar

    Somehow I feel the capabilities of the private sector in this department are not being fully utilized. As you must have have already known, L&T has
    shown great interest & investment for shipbuilding of both commercial/defence needs. And their build quality, if that is a concern, is definitely better
    than the state-run yards.
     
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    That's what I mean, eventhough this field is in a pretty good stage, we fail to export or even generate propper interest in these products, which is a shame.

    Yes, I have the same feeling, although it was promissing that the LDP or tanker competitions seems to be aimed on team ups between foreing vendors and Indian partners too, just as in the FICV for example. That was a good move of the former MoD to get the Indian industry more involved.
     
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    Yo, @Sancho

    I went clicking the links and look at this now -

    Naval Shipbuilding

    They say they've already begun production of first 2 NOPVs and pre-production activities for remaining 3 ??:eek:

    Aren't these 5 NOPVs the follow-on for 4 Saryu-class OPVs? Strange, isn't it...I thought this follow-on project was still years away from
    commencing as even the last Saryu-class vessel is yet to be delivered.
     
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    Looks like I was missing a lot of news in recent times...

    Pipavav

    Navy recognition

    I saw that ship model and CGI before but didn't take it seriously as I thought it
    was just a proposal...wooh. The first Pipavav NOPV for IN apparently began
    construction less than an year ago. Keeping in mind their timelines, we should be
    seeing the first vessel going to sea trials probably this year itself...

    EDIT : There's also a rumor Pipavav is building 4 more of these for export, probably
    to Nigeria.
     
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    Sorry bro was bit busy with university exams, the design has some sharp corners which may get detected by radars.....it may be very disturbing that till now flush decks haven't been applied to our ships which are very important rule for stealth....even p17a also won't be complete stealth ship,kamorta is not even having returded and protruded plates like shivalik for stealth....:coffee:
     
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    ASW corvette INS Kamorta to be handed over to Navy tomorrow.

    India’s first fully indigenously built major warship, the anti submarine warfare (ASW) corvette - INS Kamorta -will be handed over to the Indian Navyby Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd. (GRSE), here in Kolkata tomorrow (July 12, 2014).
    The super-sophisticated frontline warship will be formally handed by GRSE Chairman and Managing Director, Rear Admiral (Retd) AK Verma to the Indian Navy at a brief ceremony at GRSE’s Fitting-Out-Jetty.
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    Link - Tarmak007 - ASW corvette INS Kamorta to be handed over to... | Facebook

    WOW !! Kolkata today, Kamorta tomorrow !!

    @WMD
     
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