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Kargil war: When an IAF Jaguar had Sharif, Musharraf in its crosshairs

Discussion in 'Military History' started by Agent_47, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. Śakra

    Śakra FULL MEMBER

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    A barking kutta never bites.
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    That's completely different, I have never said India needs to be afraid of Pakistan's routine nuclear bluff and bluster. In fact I have, for many many years, long before the current Government and Surgical Strikes, been an overwhelming proponent of calling the nuclear bluff and retaliating to hostile Pakistani actions against India.

    However, in a situation where two nuclear powers are at war, and one country suffers a decapitating strike by which the majority or entirety of its senior political and/or military leadership is wiped out, nuclear war becomes incredibly likely.
     
  3. lca-fan

    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Are you nuts or on weeds?

    Seriously, Humiliation of India? India Army would have ripped apart Pakistan then and there had Atal Bihari Vajpayee not tied hands of Armed forces.
     
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    lca-fan Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Nothing of that sort would have happened......

    I would quote what @Grevion said "Pakistan didn't had the capabilities to nuke all of India back then. Whereas IAF could have destroyed pak punjab easily and the rest of pakistan would have gone in a Chaos", which would have given India a chance to Balkanize Pakistan at that time itself.

    Yes we would have suffered but only economically that is we would have been sanctioned and would have taken almost a decade to come out of it no doomsday scenario would have happened. Advantage would have been with India as the thorn which is still pricking would have been eliminated forever.
     
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    Wolfpack Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Thats true, Pakistan didn't have the delivery system for Nukes back then, What would they have done if their top tier leadership was taken out, Carry a 10 ton Nuclear bomb on a truck into Indian territory and blow it up manually?:rofl: It could have been our Ace in the hole,taking out entire Pakistani leadership and then blame it as Non-state actors Ammunition supply dump exploding,due to mishandling of Explosives by illiterate Jihadis.:respect:
     
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  6. Hellfire

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    Or reverse. Could have been a trigger for an escalation in a direction for which India was and is unprepared.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Because war is fought on the parameters provided by a Civil elected government, not by Armed Forces. Crossing of LC or IB has to always be a call of the Democratically elected Government of India, as constituted, on the day.

    Nothing and no one should ever change that.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Hard pressed to claim it as a victory, politically - you can claim a victory. Militarily - a stalemate.
     
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    Wiping out leadership is not a good thing. When objective of IA was limited and only to recapture heights and declare ceasefire.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    but at that time, Indian generals were not in favour of ceasefire because they had opinion that in some days Pakistan will out of ammuniation and they can easily capture whole Pakistan..And Lal Bahadur was in pressure from western countries and thats why he had to sign ceasefire agreement and Pakistan was in rush to sign ceasefire agreement..bcz they knew in some days/months they are gonna lose ..and why militarily- it was stalemate ?? Pakistan couldnot able to complete their objective, they lost more men and land
     
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    Pakistani Commander were expecting and preparing to defend the Skardu from the IA. I think we miss the oppurtunity to sack the Pir Panjal Ridge, the area from where maximum inscursion by the terrorists takes place.
     
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    The death of both Ganja PM and big mouth musharraf would have made them Matryed and a Country Hero instead of Bhagoda and taking the last breath in the Fear of Prison. We would have missed that oppurtunity, which is bound to happens. Both these fella will run for their life, and seek refuge in UK, rest assured.
     
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    Victory ??
    Agreed??
    But do we have those conquered area under our juridisction .
    World powers interfered and the sacrifices of our soldiers just gone in to vain .
     
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    Indian Army can ripped apart Pakistan .
    But our Army did that spectacularly even in 1965 .But all those gains were just wasted like Haji Pir pass .
    Thanks to the Superpowers our soldiers died for nothing

    Now we can counter major power intervention because we are a major power .But then situation was different .
     
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    Pakistan's objective was to take Kashmir, Pakistan failed miserably and ended up barely defending Lahore. By Defending Kashmir and taking the war to Pakistani territory we had already achieved a clear military victory.
     
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