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Khawaja Asif’s Correct Stand

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Hellfire, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif has once again spoken boldly about Pakistan’s need to reflect on flawed security policy choices of the past and urgently put its house in order today.

    Predictably, Mr Asif’s remarks have drawn criticism from nationalist quarters more concerned with issues of image and how Pakistan is perceived in India or the US than the threat that militancy poses to the future of this country.

    Indeed, the foreign minister’s critique of Pakistan’s embrace of non-state actors decades ago began with a familiar attack against the US for encouraging jihad in the region in the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan. That is undeniably true and too few US policymakers are willing to acknowledge that choices made under the umbrella of the Cold War changed the course of history in this region.

    History has shown that the fear of the Soviets seeking access to a warm water port through Afghanistan and Pakistan was overblown, but the Pakistani state controlled by a military dictator found the combination of that fear and US-financed plans to wage war against the Soviets in Afghanistan irresistible.

    Nearly four decades since the start of asymmetric warfare in Afghanistan, championing the cause of jihad in the region is a historic wrong that rivals the mistakes that led to the break-up of Pakistan. Certainly, Pakistan has done much to try and correct the errors of the past; the counter-insurgency campaigns and counterterrorism operations of the past decade have won a hard-earned semblance of stability in the country for which the country’s soldiers and civilian security personnel are owed an immeasurable debt of gratitude.

    But true peace and meaningful stability cannot be achieved without the total dismantling of all militant and terrorist networks and sustained counter-extremism programmes across the country.

    What the foreign minister has claimed ought to be unremarkable and uncontested. Groups such as the Haqqani network and Lashkar-e-Taiba are no allies of this country and their leaders have agendas that are inimical to the rule of law, constitutionality and democracy in Pakistan.

    There cannot and should not be space for such groups to operate, either clandestinely or openly, in Pakistan and the state has no business forfeiting the rights and future of the Pakistani people in the pursuit of some self-defeating strategic goals. What can be debated is the right approach to dismantling the remaining militant networks and deradicalising Pakistani society.

    Fears of blowback are not unfounded and where peaceful means can be found, they should be thoroughly explored. Perhaps the government should consider widening the incipient debate to include parliament, the provinces and civil society.

    A more inclusive, tolerant Pakistan at peace with its neighbours is first and foremost a victory for the Pakistani people themselves. Bad choices stem from narrowly confined deliberations. All of Pakistan should be invited to debate the country’s future.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1360644/khawaja-asifs-correct-stand
     
  2. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Seems sense and sensibility have started to come to the fore now. Let's see how much can they maintain the momentum.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Not at all. They have sold everything to China and now nothing is left to be sold. And they still want money to prevent bankruptcy. Chinese have categorically refused to give more money. That is why they are now making these statements to get help from America.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    The essence of what you have said, the lack of outright and blanket support by PRC, is truly agreed to. The Pakistani establishment (those who are keen for peace with India and more focus on economic and social development) has now got an upper hand vis-vis the established segments of the Pakistan Armed Forces who are inconvenienced by any such moves. Let us hope that this particular segment gains traction in Pakistan and there is a re-alignment in the policies with GoP actually taking the war to their entrenched non-state actors who are eroding not only their own authority but also the fabric of their society.
     
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    Scotlander Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    GCC countries won't let Pakistan go Bankrupt. In return, they'll get Pakistan's Nuke & Army as cannon Fodder.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    What i predict is that Pakistan will now realise that it has been ruined not by its enemy called India but the friends it trusted who have looted them. I do foresee a with Pakistan somekind of settlement w.r.t Kashmir and India taking up rebuilding of Pak economy. However, I wud like to see complete destruction of Pakistan and it being reduced to just Punjabistan with Sindh as part of India, Balochistan as an independent protectorate of India, Durand line dissolved and POK part of India.
     
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    GCC will not survive another three years with low fuel prices. Just let Iraq and Syria come back online with their oil. This whole GCC will collapse.
     
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    sangos Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The dog follows the masters' wishes:troll:
     
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    Bloom 17 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    They still have stuff left to sell. they just started selling their electricity distributors and real estate.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/1518859/defence-ministry-clears-sale-k-electric-chinese-firm/
    http://pkonweb.com/chinese-private-...ces-plans-for-150m-gated-community-in-gwadar/

    We are going to see a day when even their taxes are collected and elections are conducted by chinese firms.
     
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    These thoughts could've resulted in some positive action a decade ago .Part of the problem is that deep state has lost partial control of its dogs of war . Another part of it simply refuses to come to terms with the fact that they no longer control the narrative w.r.t Afghanistan and Kashmir .Add China's active support go these elements plus the carrot dangled in front of them in the form of the CPEC and the economic benefits Fauji Foundation would reap.

    Into this narrative , one must also factor in that PA would never countenance anyone curtailing their privileges as the Praetorian guard and the fact that they have successfully undermined the political class who haven't helped their cause in any way .

    Civil society and institutions are too disorganised and feeble to mount an effective challenge .Which brings us to the judiciary which musters courage to bring the political leaders to heel but hasn't shown the gumption to challenge the military ( witness the way Musharraf waltzes in & out of Pakistan in spite of the cases pending against him )

    The situation is as bleak as it can get .But Pakistan will survive .If nations in a much worse shape like Somalia , Syria Iraq and S.Sudan have , Pakistan has still much distance to cover before it plumbs the depths these nations have .

    Their NWP ensures that .But that is another story for another day and topic .
     
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    May be for Afghanistan only but for Kashmir no chance.
     
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    And you woke up with wet Pajama,

    Union of India on verge to break down more than 15 separatist movements are fighting with Indian forces, time is nor far when your forces collapse like soviet union.
    And I am foreseeing a micro nation neighboring bigger mighty Pakistan.
     
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    Don't hope much on lost horses N.S and his team including Asif have no future.
     
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    Scotlander Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We are Foreseeing - Sindhudesh, Baluchistan. Only Pakistan Punjab will be know as Land of Pure.:laugh:
     
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