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LCA Tejas Multirole Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Having 2 dpsu would have been a complete waste of resources. What they should have done was that they should have created a level playing field for both public and private players. The only reason ADA has its hands full today is because its favoured by mod. Had there been a competing private entity then ADA would have been working night and day to deliver on tejas program.
     
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  2. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    He pretty much nails it except for a few shortcomings.

    But this should be an eye opener for anybody who believes that f16 or gripen should be selected for our lwf requirement.

    Ahh anyway i dont even care what those idiots believe for i know for sure that tejas will fulfil our lwf fighter demand.
     
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  3. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    Two Public Sector companies specialising in one thing is much better than letting private companies dictate.

    Military projects in China vs USA is one fine example.

    No one can do anything for overly expensive and delayed procurement processes in US right now.
     
  4. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    this proves my point rather than yours, technology wise US is leagues ahead of China in every field.

    most of the progress that china has made today has been because its successful military espionage or reverse enginieering or buying IPRs from ukraine.

    well money has to be drained on some projects to so that they can be used for black projects (something which USA has a history of)
    sometimes i think that what if f35 is just a poster project, while allies are buying and paying for it it US is prepping a next gen of ac for its AF

    who said anything about letting private players dictate, i am just saying that there should be a level playing field for everyone, if a dpsu cant keep up then its their own bloody fault.
     
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  5. SilentSpectator

    SilentSpectator FULL MEMBER

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    India in Talks for Export of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas

    Published November 19, 2016 SOURCE: SPUTNIK

    India is trying to make the low cost and simple design of Tejas its unique selling proposition to cost-conscious countries in Asia. “Indian government proposes to export the LCA Tejas to other countries and in this connection preliminary discussions have been held with a few friendly countries,” says Manohar Parrikar, Indian Defense Minister. The Indian Ministry of Defense claims to have received a positive response from a few Asian nations. They have found it attractive due to its low cost and simple design. But it is not known if re-export permissions are required from overseas suppliers of components. Its engines are American, radar, helmet display and laser pod of Israeli make and Russia has supplied the canons and missiles. ndia had symbolically formed the first squadron of Tejas in July this year with two initial operational configuration (IOC) aircraft. The remaining 18 jets in the same configuration will be inducted over the next two years. This will be followed by the induction of 20 Tejas in the Final Operation Configuration (FOC). The indigenous content is 59.7 per cent by value and attempts are on to localize the production of some more imported components. The state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited can currently assemble eight Tejas per annum. It has plans to double the output to 16 Aircraft per annum

    websites http://idrw.org/india-in-talks-for-export-of-light-combat-aircraft-lca-tejas/ .
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    Shouldn't we concentrate on our needs first?? If we are looking till 2028 for 83 Tejas, when will these exports start?
     
  6. Butter Chicken

    Butter Chicken Captain FULL MEMBER

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    We can barely produce any Tejas,but talking of exports!

    I guess we will be able to sell a few to Bangladesh,and maybe Sri Lanka,Myanmar and a couple of African/Lat Am nations
     
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    True.. I will be quiet happy if we get export orders however the projected speed at which HAL is churning out Tejas doesn't instil much confidence.
    But hey I could be wrong. God I hope I am wrong.
     
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  8. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    Tejas as capable as Rafale jet, says Manohar Parrikar
    ByIANS
    | Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 21:04
    First Published |Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 21:04
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    Tejas is as good as the French-made Rafale fighter jet, Manohar Parrikar said.


    Panaji: The indigenously manufactured light combat aircraft 'Tejas', which was inducted into the Indian Air Force earlier this year, is as good as the French-made Rafale fighter jet and comparable with other top LCAs across the world, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said on Saturday.

    "This is a plane which is completely indigenously manufactured and can compete with any other fighter plane in the world. It is as capable as the Rafale. Only this is a light combat aircraft (LCA)," Parrikar said.

    "Only a 3.5 ton missile can be carried on it, Rafale on the other hand can carry a nine ton (missile). This plane can fly at the rate of 450 kms, Rafale can run 900 kms because it has twin engines," he added.

    The Defence Minister also said that the Tejas, which was stalled for 33 years, was expedited because of his explicit directions to those in-charge of the project.

    "I told them that all shortcomings should be fulfilled and the plane should be ready in a year," Parrikar said, adding that some days ago an order had been placed for 83 more planes.
    http://www.newsx.com/national/46942-tejas-as-capable-as-rafale-jet-says-manohar-parrikar
     
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  9. Echo_419

    Echo_419 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Is he high?
     
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  10. R!CK

    R!CK 2nd Lieutant REGISTERED

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    I hope it was the reporter having translation issues and not DM actually saying this. :facepalm:

    Good Day!
     
  11. Grevion

    Grevion Professional Think Troll IDF NewBie

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    That sounds like a news to me. Although newsx is not a very trustworthy source.
     
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    halupridol FULL MEMBER

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    Yes bro thts exactly what we need,,anothr dpsu,,another jawahar rozgar yojna.
    What r u on about??
    Tejas is 4+gen a/c,,,its best in class,,,its already being produced n has gloriously entered squadron service.
    Even without gun,bvr,limited radar range tejas is a beastmaster.ofcourse airforces around the world will be interested in this game changer.
    Its just our phoren maal luving airforce,corrupt mod n babus who have sabotaged this project...lca will/shall/would be a huge success,,just wait few more decades,,true story :)
     
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  13. Itachi

    Itachi IDF NewBie

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    Dont tell me in the end MP says, tejas is as capable as rafale. So, lets buy F16 and F18 :cheesy:
     
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  14. flanker143

    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    no matter how much sentimental value we have for tejas, mk1 in its present form can be hardly compared to rafale which is an extremely potent weapons platform, this is the bitter truth wrt tejas.

    as for now mk1 is suitable only for defensive cap and cas. And it can do cas only if it is integrated with the right weapons and ejector racks (for which there are no plans as of now).

    imho ADA has taken us for a royal ride till now and since it's the project manager for tejas mk1A and mk2 i dont expect it to end anytime soon.

    i have followed the tejas program with great interest but i have to accept that this interest is slowly dying now.

    my best wishes are with vstol jockey's LSA project and i hope it crushes and buries lca saga for good.
     
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  15. PARIKRAMA

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