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LCA Tejas Multirole Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Nobody is stopping the induction.. thats what i am saying. IAF can induct any # of Tejas which HAL produces.

    But Tejas needs to be combat capable for that.

    By placing them with Western Air Command, SWAC etc you are exposing them to F-7's, F-16's and others of whom i guess i cant name.

    Even when FOC is cleared it may need a year or so in South India before being sent into the grind.

    And coming back to square one IAF will only induct that which exists.

    Inducting 4-5 Tejas is not going to make any difference to the retirement of the Mig fleet. I hope IAF has kept all Mig-23's ready for service.

    People dreaming about 100's of Tejas has resulted in the notion of LSA, AMCA. Drunk on their own propaganda.

    Blueprints don't fight wars hope people on this forum realize that.

    Congress, BJP, 3rd front nothing and nobody can help HAL. Modi should sell off HAL like the DM is planning for Air India.
     
  2. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I think DRDO and ADA while being late by an unforgivable 40 years have atleast completed the technical aspects of IOC-2.

    But HAL is not manufacturing.

    Perhaps they are discovering huge faults in the Tejas. Or the capacity to actually manufacture is not there and HAL is showing its true colours of being an assembly unit for imported aircraft.
     
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  3. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I think this calculation of having 123 LCA with IAF seems right.

    HAL having delivered 3 aircrafts in 3 years, since 2015, by extrapolating HAL's performance of delivering 1 AC/year and being conservative with IAF's losses of 1 AC/year/type, we will hit the magic number of 123. The first, second and the third LCA by 2025!! :fighting1:
     
  4. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel IDF NewBie

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    Major faults would be surprising, since they have produced several SP models before, but so far I haven't seen any report that could hint to a problem, so we have to wait and see.
     
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    shaktimaan Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    They are delievering aircrafts at such low pace because 20 jets have different specification and 20 jets have different, no aero industy can increase rate of production untill specifications are freezed, they can easily increase rate of production for mk1a as ordered numbers are huge and requirements are freezed ....so stop blaming hal for this .....
    * and aircrafts delievered from sp1 to sp4 have also some minor changes from each other
     
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    sunny6611 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    they had a 200+ order for SU 30 ... or lets now put it as this ... they have to upgrade these 200+ SU30 ... do they have 24+/year capacity ?
     
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    sunny6611 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    as they do not have engines.

    so how & why should they increase the assembly of tejas.
     
  8. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    If Pakistan wants Kashmir so badly the GOI should only give it on 1 condition. Pakistan must take the entire structure of HAL and all its employees and ensure there is no trace of HAL left in the Republic of India.
     
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    Soumya Major STAR MEMBER

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    You should leave for Pakistan. They will have a gem of a mind with unmatched stupidity.
     
  10. X_Killer

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    Kashmir is the integrated part of India and can't be share with anyone and at any cost.
     
  11. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    Yes, I agree.

    The only way we can salvage LCA project is to reduce HAL's inefficiency , and the only way to do it, to reduce its production share.

    Bring a fully private consortium, give them all the ToT necessary for building the aircraft. And then place order for 4 squadrons to them.

    Also give them the rights to modify and upgrade the aircraft , so as to either enhance its capability, or ease its maintenance and reduce the cost.

    If this happens today, then before HAL deliver the 1st MK1A , the private consortium would have delivered half of its order already.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    They have enough engines for all 20 IOC2 aircraft ordered.

    No reason why they should not deliver it fast.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    These idiots had a capacity to build 18 Su30MKI each year, but they are building only 12 each year, just to prolong the production, so as to save jobs.

    Ever wondered why there is a difference of ~25 million USD between a Irkut and HAL built SM/MKI?

    In a situation where IAF desperately needs more fighter, this act qualifies the whole HAL MKI assembly line to be disbanded and everyone of them involved be sentenced for life.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major REGISTERED

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    All SP aircrafts from SP1 to SP20 have the same "IOC 2" config and will be 97% exactly same.

    This does not qualify as a reason for delay.

    The only reason is sheer incompetence character of HAL.
     
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  15. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    First HAL need to churn out numbers at IOC2 level, once the numbers are out, they can recall for upgrades. HAL is playing with Indian tax payer's money as well as this excuse of incremental modification leading to slowing down of the production rate is detrimental to the scooortie of India.
     

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