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LCA Tejas Multirole Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. Lion of Rajputana

    Lion of Rajputana Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Wait so when they come out they will already be at MK1A standard instead of MK1 standard?
     
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    Both 2052 and 2032 have the same backend computer and only difference is the Antenna. I don't give a Jack on the Antenna, whether AESA, PESA, GaN, because its the Antenna, with a function of transmitting the electromagnetic energy and reciever to catch the returning waves, filter it via filter circuit and fed to the Backend.
    You can discuss number of modules, generated power, number of targets it could detect, target and monitor simultaneously, modes of operation blah blah blah but no OEM will tell you about the attenuation losses. And will not tell that if the number of target detection monitor is increased the clarity will decreased aka scan rate.

    The Modern Digital Radars, is mostly Software, and the real power lies at the backend, which consists of the Computer that actually create the picture out of that input, the amount of memory available for interleaved operation, and the algorithm to detect, identify the target. And in this field Israel have invested lot and have real life experience.

    As far as the Darin 3 is concerned, for me 2032 is enough for the Jaguar, since its small nose will not permit larger Antenna, nor it is armed with Long range AAM, nor it is designed for the aerial combat. Its function would be mostly the scan the Ground target and mapping.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    To be honest there is not going to be a huge ammount of difference between the FOC Mk.1s and the MK.1A, if HAL can integrate an AESA radar and EW systems (that will be relatively simple considering they are off the shelf systems and integration is the remit of the OEM) then there's not much stopping this from becoming a reality.
     
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    Blackjay Developers Guild IDF NewBie

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    I am guessing very close to,but not completely.If they manage to integrate all the major systems,then it's very good for us.
    It doesn't matter if all the parts are standardised like in mk1a.While we won't have interchangeability,the combat capability will be very close.Ofcourse I am just guessing here.

    Any improvement is good for us:india:.And faster they reach mk1a standard in series production.More optimised the final mk1a will be.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    Right, I'm guessing HAL are talking about fitting the "plug and play" systems from the Mk.1A into the MK.1 FOC but the servicability improvements won't come until the full MK.1A.
     
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    Yup, either way, good news for us indeed.
     
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    Difference between the MK1 and MK1A is also in the easy maintainability, and the LRU and other avionics placement and position for quick excess. This should be what HAL is doing.
     
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    Very good news and indicitive of the proactive approach now being taken by the LCA project.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major IDF NewBie

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    Indeed, like I said the "plug and play" systems will be a relatively simple addition to the FOC MK.1s, but certain service/maintainence related improvements will have to wait for the MK.1A.
     
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    What do you mean by plug and play system. There are many things that can be incorporated in the MK1 in the FOC, that will avoid the rework such as laying piping for aerial refuel probe, electrical, electronics wiring, any structure changes.
     
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    Such as the radar and SPJ pod.
     
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    I knew someone who is as pessimistic... Haloperidol

    Is that him? Knowledgeable yet pessimistic.
     
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    Which incidentally are also the main difference between combat capability of FOC and mk1a.
    Rest is servicing, standardisation ,removal of excess ballast, re-engineering of landing gear,etc.
    Last two does give mk1a an edge in combat I guess, but radar and spj are absolutely critical and will greatly improve our 20 FOC machines.
     
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    Indeed, the fighting ability of the FOC and MK.1A will be near identical if the proposal comes to fruition.
     
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