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LCA Tejas Multirole Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Dark_Prince, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. InfoWarrior

    InfoWarrior Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    When our PSUs fail to even make small arms ammunition, how can they successfully make something like LCA.

    Do you think this was a political gimmick to buy F16s ? US pressure or bribes ?
    France, India Disagree Over Key Rafale Contract Issue
    http://aviationweek.com/defense/france-india-disagree-over-key-rafale-contract-issue

    Let's see if Lockheed can guarantee quality of F16 made by HAL.
     
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    X_Killer Captain FULL MEMBER

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    If selected, F-16s will be manufactured by TASL-LM Joint venture. There will be no issues with guarantees when LM itself a party in manufacturing process.
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    F 16 will be made by Tata Lockheed Joint Venture

    At present British and Russians are working with HAL
    In Hawk Trainer and SU 30 MK deals

    In Future FGFA will be made by HAL
     
  4. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Dates was a rhetorical question :)

    Point is, we need to ramp up production. We don’t need waste of time on Combat Hawk. We aren’t inducting that category. Hawk line could have been closed.

    Anyways, with interoperability the key word now coming in .... LCA will be bye bye .... in its present form.
     
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    InfoWarrior Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Why doesn't TATA make Rafale with Dassault Aviation under Joint Venture ?

    Trusting HAL with FGFA manufacture is risky.
    HAL Caught supplying used AL-31FP engines on brand New Sukhoi 30 MKI
    https://thaimilitaryandasianregion....mki-with-already-used-and-secondhand-engines/

    Whenever HAL produces something it turns out too late, overweight, over budget etc

    Home-made Sukhois to cost more than ones bought from Russia
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...re-than-ones-bought-from-russia/1/223960.html
     
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    whats that under inner wing pylon ?
    drop tank wet pylons appear that way ?
     
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    Read the links you post with bold letters before commenting. MKI costs more because its part of the contract terms not fault of HAL. IAF QA didn't check engines before accepting new MKI. Nothing wrong with it except they should have taken permission from MoD.
     
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    So did IAF not like tejas?

    Had been saying that for last few days when this mud slinging campaign started to demean IAF...

    Now ask yourself why IAF was bad mouthed by all the media and why Gov is shown as the savior of LCA?

    Whats the real agenda?

    Why in thsoe article LCA was compared with Gripen and F16 and which out of these fighter was shown to be better..

    A narrative is being built up.. for what.. you all have been told already..
     
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  13. lca-fan

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    Fight Of The Phoenix
    Published November 14, 2017 | By admin SOURCE: Bangalore Mirror

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    Amidst reports that the Indian Air Force (IAF) is looking to dump Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas and instead opt for single engine fighter jets, the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has scaled up production to manufacture more aircraft at its Bangalore Complex. The defence PSU which has an order to manufacture 83 Tejas MK -1A aircraft has scaled up the production to manufacture 15 aircrafts annually from the earlier eight aircrafts at the Bangalore Complex. It has also set up a second assembly line to meet the target. “We are on schedule to meet the order to manufacture 83 Tejas MK -1A aircraft and have already started to speed up the production of the aircrafts from 8 to 15 per year. A second assembly line has already been set up for this where the existing Hawk trainer aircraft hangars would be used for the Tejas’ production,” an HAL official told Bangalore Mirror. The official added that HAL has already manufactured and delivered the Hawk aircraft to the IAF and the Indian Navy. The PSU had a total order of 123 Hawks from the IAF and Indian Navy in addition to 22 aircraft for the Surya Kiran aerobatic team.The LCA project is one of the most delayed indigenous defence projects with the Ministry of Defence initiating the project way back 1980s to replace the ageing MiG-21s. However, Tejas has been delayed for several years and, only in July 2016, was it inducted in the IAF. Only five aircrafts have been inducted into the IAF’s No 45 Squadron so far and the LCA has only attained the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC). The IOC aircraft are armed with Close Combat Air-to-Air Missiles, Helmet Mounted Displays and Precision Guided Weapons like Laser Guided Bombs. These aircraft are also capable of dropping unguided bombs with much higher accuracy due to highly advanced indigenous mission computer. The LCA is yet to get Final Operational Clearance (FOC). The FOC aircraft would incorporate Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles, improved and better stand-off weapons and air to air refuelling capability. IAF is also pitching for additional LCA Mk 1A which would incorporate new generation Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radar with simultaneous air-to-air and air-to-ground capability, an integrated advanced Electronic Warfare Suite, advanced versions of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons and maintainability improvements. HAL said that the FOC is planned only by the end of 2018. An HAL official said that the PSU, which also operated the HAL airport where 45 Squadron is based out of, has been provided with a new tarmac for carrying out day and night operations and further enhance the capabilities of the aircraft before it attains FOC. Meanwhile, the IAF is said to soon issue a Request for Information (RFI) for acquiring 114 fighter jets. The IAF is said to prefer these jets instead of the advanced version of the Tejas due to its limited capabilities. THE LCA JOURNEY Aug 1983 `560-crore sanctioned for Project Definition June 16, 1984 Establishment of ADA, the nodal agency for the LCA programme Mid-1985 ADA begins full-fledged functioning 1988 Project Definition completed & proposal sent for project clearance June 23, 1993 ` 2,188-cr including ` 560-cr sanctioned earlier Jan 4, 2001 First Flight of LCA. Prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee renames LCA as Tejas. April 25, 2007 First flight of Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft July 6, 2010 LCA Naval prototype rolls out . Jan 10, 2011 First Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) April 27, 2012 The maiden flight of the Naval variant of the LCA Dec 20, 2013 Second IOC Jan 17, 2015 MoD hands over first series production LCA made by HAL to the IAF. Jan 20, 2016 LCA flies out of India for the first time to participate in the Bahrain International Airshow May 17, 2016 Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha becomes the first chief of air staff to fly LCA. July 1, 2016 LCA joins IAF Squadron

    http://idrw.org/fight-of-the-phoenix/#more-153939 .
     
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  14. lca-fan

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    Tejas aircraft capability to be enhanced


    In the face of the Air Force raising questions about the capability of the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas, the government is now aiming to install capability enhancements and speed up the rate of production.

    “The production of Tejas Mk-1A will begin in 2019. Most of the 43 improvements have already been made and the tender process to install an Advanced Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar and Self-Protection Jammer is under way. A refuelling probe would also be added to increase range,” a source said.

    While the design cannot be changed and endurance improved as it is powered by the GE-404 engine, the enhancements will increase the capability of the aircraft, the source said. The IAF had told the government that Tejas did not meet its requirements. IAF was in the process of issuing a tender for the procurement of 100 jets through the Strategic partnership mode, for which the contenders were Lockheed F-16 and SAAB Gripen. Lockheed had tied up with Tata group and SAAB with the Adani group to build them locally if selected.

    Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) was undertaking the enhancements and was in the process of setting up another assembly line at a cost of ₹130 crore to increase production rate from the present eight to 16. The second line would be ready by 2019 when Mk-1A began production, the source stated.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tejas-aircraft-capability-to-be-enhanced/article20398063.ece
     
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  15. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Stick to topic please. I don’t care about a Dalit or a Brahmin so please stop trying to educate me and others on it. And personally it’s too late in the day for me to waste time reading such nonsense. Cooperation is solicited (coerced or willing ;))


    But if they suck at work, I will make fun of their caste as a whole ..... lol

    Now back to point ... how are our Indians at HAL doing?

    They seem to be reading us @randomradio ;) they have supposedly decided to ramp up production

    Damn .. @vstol jockey was right ... somebody reads us :D

    @Gessler please make a GSQR for unified assault rifle for IA, maybe they may read that too and stop making a faeces of the whole process :D
     

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