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LCA Tejas Naval Variant

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by hotstud69, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. ert

    ert IDF NewBie

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    Is that a missile? ? On its first flight itself?
     
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    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    positron Captain FULL MEMBER

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    I read somewhere that AMCA will have navy in the Lead (somewhat like F-18 was for USN) and later became an airforce plane. But then India will need carriers that can allow a heavy plane (heavier than MiG-29K to take off and land, that in turn might mean bigger and heavier carrier
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    our next carrier vishal will be bigger and better than the current carriers and it will employ catapult launch mechanism similar to US carriers which can launch much heavier planes. and i believe the folow on carriers will also be same or will be bigger than vishal.
    and i too heard that AMCA will be having NAVY as the lead customer. i believe it will be lot better than having IAF as lead partner because navy knows how to deal with the government agencies.
    @Gessler and @vstol jockey can shed more light on this.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Navy works very closely with DRDO and therefore better placed to deliver things made in India while IAF only looks for bribes.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    yes, thats exatly what i mean and IAF only wants foreign maal even when domestic alternatives are available.
    is it true that navy is the lead customer for the AMCA???
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I am not aware of that.
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    ok.
     
  9. sam2012

    sam2012 Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Sensible move if Navy is lead partner for AMCA , IAF can drum around MMRCA
     
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    venureddy Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    its a lot better to have navy as lead partner than IAF.
     
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    As you might see, due to higher cost of planes, the quantity requirement will be reducing in sometime, but the quality and availability requirement would be more. Look at Europe, they are having defence cuts when threats are not there. Thus in decade or so based on Indian requirements, the planes will be thousand or so, but it will be combined requirement of IAF and IN and maybe even Army aviation. Thus it does make a sense when the main and lead plane is common, as then the cost of production and maintenance is cheaper, Like F/A-18 and F-4 Phantom before that. The Russians have MiG-29 and Su-33 / 27 thing. Gone are the days when Mikoyan Gurevich could make and sell Few ten thousand planes. Now even few thousand planes is a challenge, except American fighter and possibly Russian, which plane has sold has more than 1000 in use?
    India is potential buyer for 1000 planes and only if the IAF, and IN make some common requirements and come up with common design and avionics. If you see IAF is more inclined to foreign purchase unless domestic products are forced on it and they are eager to see flaws. On other hand navy works more closely and hence they get a product what they want, hence it is better if AMCA is Naval product which is then considered by IAF based on the results of operation, that is win win situation
     
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    Guys notice the length of aircraft between IAF & Navy variant also it seems that some sort of CFT's will be used in LCA Navy.(just by top view)

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    Given the time-scales involved, any Mk2 naval Tejas should probably include CATOBAR-launch capability as well.
     
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    LCA Navy Project Gets Boost
    Published February 19, 2015
    SOURCE: EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE

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    The Light Combat Aircraft (Navy) project has gathered momentum in the last few months even as its IAF variant is heading towards the Final Operational Clearance (FOC) and induction into service.

    The government has asked the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) to build more prototypes and the Navy has sent a Request for Proposal (RFP) to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for producing eight Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft. “The government has asked us to build three more prototypes. We are seeking additional sanction and the proposal will be submitted in a month or two,” Commodore (retd) CD Balaji, Project Director of LCA (Navy), told Express on Wednesday.

    In the meantime, to save time, they are already building one prototype with the resources they have. “By the end of next year, we should start flying. The government has been positive and has asked us to go ahead.”

    The project was sanctioned in 2003. Two prototypes, NP1 and NP2, are flying. While the first one took to the skies in April 2012, NP2 had its maiden flight on February 7 this year. Crossing two milestones, NP2, which has taken flight four times, is now on static display at Aero India 2015 at the Yelahanka Air Force Station.

    According to Commodore Balaji, the NP1 ski-jump launch, which they conducted at their facility in Goa in December last year, was a game changer. “There was some amount of skepticism about the programme, but after the launch, there is a fundamental change in the attitude. Now, everyone are looking at it positively,” he said.

    They have built a test facility in Goa to simulate aircraft carrier with a ski-jump launch and arrested barrier recovery.

    Further ski-jump launches will be done, while they will also start tests on barrier-arrested recovery process.

    Unlike in the IAF variant, the naval version will not have to obtain Initial Operational Clearance and FOC. “Carrier Suitability and Air Defence Compatibility are the two fundamental parameters that need to be tested and proven. Most of the weapon systems and avionics that are tested on LCA (IAF) are same for the naval version.”

    However, the naval version will be different in many aspects, like its ability to operate from an aircraft carrier. In terms of engine, GE 404 and GE 414 engines in the LCAs are basically naval engines flying on F-18, which is a naval aircraft.
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Arrestor hook trials on the NLCA will commence by Sep-Oct this year : Saurav Jha
     

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