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Light Stealth Aircraft (LSA) - Concept Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by randomradio, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I have finances ready. I need go ahead from some government agency. Its for this reason that I am knocking at the doors of IN. I have no hope with IAF.
     
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    ashkum2278 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Wishing you all the best........hope some common sense prevails and we see positive movement in this direction......lol
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    IAF will not agree to anything till such time their Rafale numbers are decided. They have gone mad for Rafales. I have yet to come across a collective group of over 150K people who are as stupid as IAF. IN is keeping all its options open. They are not impressed by Rafale-M at all.
     
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    ashkum2278 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    In that case, the situation is just right for you to have your foot in the door.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    yes. And also some support from IN too. Don't believe it.
     
  6. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    In defence of the IAF, they have been taken on a ride for far too long on promises. Rafale is the best option if we don't consider the MSA.

    As for IN, they woke up to the false promises of ADA relatively quickly. They are the best bet for your jet.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    It was apparently an old Su-27P.
     
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    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Hope, Go ahead is given earlier..
    And the theoretical specs of MSA doesn't degrade much in air.
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    It's the best CTOL fighter for the moment : agile, long legs, very high loads (specially versus its own weight), nice electronic suite.
    What can impressed them ? F35B or C ? :undecided:
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    NO. Only on Charles de Gaulle carrier, with "short" 75m catapult.
    On a 90m USN catapult it will be different.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    We discussed it many times. and the reason is not catapult but peace time limitations.
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Bro, Rafale-C is good, but the Rafale-M is not an impressive aircraft.

    The MTOW is reported to be only 21.5T. Its load carrying capacity is only 1T more than Mig-29K. And this is from a catapult launch. From Stobar, in Indian conditions, it could be lesser.

    Let's not forget how badly the aircraft will be affected once the wings are folded. A lot of that performance advantage will simply disappear.

    Another major drawback is the lack of a 2 seater naval Rafale.

    I see the F-35B as a much higher grade contender. It already has excellent MTOW owing to its TVC take off. With a ramp, it could do even better. It can carry 6.5T in payload apart from a full 6T of fuel. Plus it has an internal bay and a stealth design. Money is a different issue.

    @vstol jockey @halloweene @Picdelamirand-oil
     
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    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    So during wartime, it can do 24.5T?
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    at least that is what @Picdelamirand-oil claimed. But from STOBAR, its restricted to below 22 tons.
     
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    So ultimately there is very little difference between Rafale M and Mig-29K in load carrying capacity, it carries only 1T more.

    How much range do you think the Rafale M provides with 2 1250L tanks?
     

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