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Light Stealth Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by randomradio, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. zebra7

    zebra7 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't think providing the 3D model would reveal any internal details of this design, and won't have any problem to @vstol jockey since he had posted his design 3D picture or close to its final design.
     
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    DRDO/HAL - the one thing that gets produced on time is GARAM CHAI and SAMOSA in their canteens.
     
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  5. zebra7

    zebra7 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I have seen them closely, and I can tell one thing. There are three category of people in govt. PSUs, One who have the capability, talent and knowledge and who work hard, second who have the capability and talent but don't work rather they utilized their capability and talent in degrading the first category, third who don't have the capability and ended there luckily. So the best thing you can do and get the max output is the 66% from the present 33% minus X percentage. To mock and making fun of those Scientists and Engineers are easy, but surely there are very good and talented people out their who cares and gives their best, and you can only realize that when you work out in the organization surrounded with such people in a system. You could be a part of the system, but not the whole system of yourself. And the statement you made just is making the fun of those competent and devoted person who is talented, devoted to his work in the name of the whole GROUP is not appreciable. What could you do to speed up the development of the process, when you are only responsible to one small unit/sub assembly. A system works well and 100% efficient when all subcomponents works well and in sync, and any failure in that part leads to the failure of the whole system. Let someone who you think is inferior to you in talent and knowledge suddenly becomes you BOSS due to reservation or approach and giving you command, and then check you level of output of GARAM CHAI and SAMOSA.
     
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    Reservation and quota system has literally hold our country and its economy at ransom. Idiots from reservation class get jobs who don't have talent and basic knowledge and talented people have to look for jobs abroad. Look at NASA, and other US companies they hire talent from all over world without any reservation botheration that's why they are ahead in R&D in every field.
     
  7. randomradio

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    It isn't what you are thinking. It's become an ego issue with DRDO, and the LSA is a threat to most of their aerospace institution. The LSA basically surpasses the LCA in every single category while achieving AMCA level capability, with better stealth and supercruise. You will have to ask him for the details, he is on this thread you know?
     
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    Actually he is very correct with his statement. There are certain procedure that needs to be followed to everyone since Vstol certainly needs various components produced by the various PSU's as per his plan, and certainly would need the testing facility and the certification certificate from the various agencies in India. If you claim its just a private project, then he can buy all the offshelf from the OEM's and buy various manufacturing material and build it with its own money and use the testing facility of pvt firm like Airbus or Boeing such as Wind tunnel test.

    He is only asking for the initials of the member of the comitee whom he meet and presented his presentation and offering his help what he can do, so what wrong in it.
     
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    zebra7 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    You can change your destiny, but you cannot change your Mother and Motherland.
     
  10. vstol jockey

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    there is nothing wrong with it but the DPP 2016 has laid down a procedure which requires the respective service HQ to raise the issue and so I am following that procedure by making presentations to IN & IAF.
     
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    He wants to utilize the IDDM clause in the DPP. That's why he's giving direct presentations to the forces themselves.

    Yeah, the plan is to buy everything OTS. Utilizing PSU resources is an option. But if IN and IAF are in, DRDO will have no choice.
     
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    But IN and IAF will agree only if parrikar get agree and parrikar will be agree if HAL get agree
     
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    Even HAL has a vendor base in India and abroad. I will source items directly from them and not from HAL. Once the respective service moves the proposal, DRDO goes out of picture.
     
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    HAL is not in the loop. If IAF and IN agree, then Parrikar will also agree. What you are referring to is the DRDO Chief. But DRDO can be bypassed if the forces agree.

    In fact, even if one of them agrees, it's a done deal.

    Basically, right now, they have to go on faith that Vstol will deliver. That's a tall order. The forces have been bitten before with the LCA program. But if Vstol delivers a prototype that can supercruise, it's a done deal, they'll both bite and Vstol can reel them in. If that's done, DRDO will also be forced to bite or get left behind.

    Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come.
     
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    The most powerful statement so far.
     

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