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Light Stealth Aircraft

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by randomradio, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I wrote 3 different long messages and deleted it...

    I couldn't bring out myself ..

    But all I can say is ..

    Jai Hind ... Jai Hind .. JAI HIND.
     
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    While I wish you al the best in your venture for what seems to be a novel idea & the fact that it would bring immense benefits to India ( at least on paper ) do tell us , aren't you being carried away ?

    Why would any established firm try to encourage a budding competitor leave alone help them ?

    It's business nothing personal .
     
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  3. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Not because of them , to me it s because we were let down by our very own forces and DRDO..
     
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    I had mentioned earlier on the thread that getting the ej230 would be almost impossible and a backup was needed. A change in engine at the 11th hour would ruin all design elements of the fuselage frame or you may have to overdesign the frame . I do hope you are first able to finalize the engine and design the aircraft based on that rather than working the other way round.
     
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  5. randomradio

    randomradio Mod Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I'm not surprised. That's why I hoped the Israelis would come through. They don't have a competing aircraft.
     
  6. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    so now it's going to be Darin 3 on the inside.. As the basic .

    Improvements over it can be done after demonstrating airframe ?

    It looks like jaguar squadrons can get a new body ...

    When its successful, Hal can design Darin 4 ..

    VSTOL mentioned nearly all European countries, that means Saab is still left,
    Russia is also there ..

    I hope Israelis agree..
     
  7. Sathya

    Sathya Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Also the engine is going to be twin ...
    Kaveri... Is the only hope ?

    Any other engine is there available to make it in single engine configuration?
     
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    Aqwoyk Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Radar to Mil hi jayega engine ki bt h ab to
     
  9. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Business rivalry is one thing and acting as a cartel is another. All these firms are acting as Cartels.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Russia is not an option and so is Israel due to LCA. I have replacement engine available for EJ-230 in GE F414INS6 with thrust boost to 108KN. LSA by design is a 65/98 airframe. The boost to 108KN is needed only for STOBAR carriers and that too when you want to go with a payload above 4.5 tons. 99% of all missions from Deck for LSA will be below 14.5tons of MTOW. F414INS6 can generate 108KN but in that case its hot section life will reduce to 2000hrs from present 6000hrs. LSA wont need this thrust requirement always and a small feature added to FADEC will allow this thrust boost.
    Finally I have Kaveri for single engine configuration and HTFE-35 in twin configuration.
     
  11. Sathya

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    true . . its happening in all fields.
    Once succeeded with the effort,
    and wont be able to contain anymore, they will treat you as an equal & try to get u as partner in that cartel
     
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    What about the avionics and EW suite ? Expect some trouble in getting the stuff you need for the LSA. I think this has to indigenous to the max.
     
  13. Sathya

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    i dont know all stuff.. but Darin 3 system is what he has got.
    probably all that in jaguar darin 3, he may be having access

    i thank atleast for this much is available.. giving a chance to prove his concept.

    but i couldnt accept Israeli not able offer... since they have already done with LCA it shouldnt bother them
    it only makes feel that ADA is not happy with things getting shared.not Israel.
     
  14. Golden_Rule

    Golden_Rule Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    A lot has been written about the military industrial complex

    http://resistir.info/livros/john_perkins_confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man.pdf
     
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    I would suggest you to go with twin HAL HTFE-35. You already said that it could be upgraded to 40/62kn. This extra power will actually be useful for better super cruise capabilities and this engine being idigenous will be cartel & sanction proof.

    Additionally it will also fulfill IN demand (RFI) of twin engined Fighters for carrier operations.
     

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