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Malabar naval exercise, with an eye on China, a potent symbol of India-US strategic embrace

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by defc0n, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Modi and US President Trump+ have vowed to further strengthen the already expansive India-US defence and security partnership, a highly visible symbol of which will be the massive Malabar naval exercise with Japan as the third participant in the Bay of Bengal next month.

    The US is now one of the top three arms suppliers to India, notching up sales worth $15 billion since 2007 to even dislodge Russia from the top slot for the last couple of years. The bilateral defence trade could well cross the $20 billion mark within the next few years, with several defence deals in the pipeline amid the US designating India as a "Major Defence Partner" on par with its "closest allies" to make the transfer of technology swifter and smoother than ever before.

    The US, of course, is also hard-selling its F-16 and F/A-18 fighters to India, which is keen on jump-starting a second jet production line after the Tejas light combat aircraft under the "Make in India" framework. But there is still no clarity on how this proposed project will square up with Trump's hard-line policy on not allowing jobs and factories to be shifted out of the US.

    The joint statement after the Modi-Trump summit noted Washington's "offer" to sell 22 Predator Sea Guardian surveillance drones worth over $2 billion to New Delhi, even as the Pentagon also notified the US Congress about the sale of another C-17 Globemaster-III strategic air lifter to India for $366 million.

    The IAF has already inducted 10 gigantic C-17 aircraft under a $4.1 billion deal inked in 2011. In conjunction with 13 C-130J "Super Hercules" aircraft also ordered from the US for over $2.1 billion, the C-17s provide India with power-projection capabilities to swiftly transport combat-ready troops and weapons to the border with China for any contingency.

    The Malabar exercise, with a pronounced thrust on anti-submarine warfare, also comes at a time when Chinese submarines are making regular forays into the Indian Ocean Region . The Indian Navy has tracked at least seven Chinese submarines entering the region, with nuclear and conventional boats alternating with each other, since December 2013, as was first reported by TOI.

    Pointing to the Malabar exercise, Trump said, "Our militaries are working every day to enhance cooperation, and next month they will join together with the Japanese Navy to take part in the largest maritime exercise ever conducted in the vast Indian Ocean."

    India, incidentally, will be deploying its 44,570-tonne aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya for a combat exercise with foreign countries for the first time. In addition to a US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the Malabar exercise will witness several frontline warships, submarines and aircraft from the three countries.

    India and the US will also "hunt submarines" together with their Poseidon-8 long-range maritime patrol aircraft during the exercise. The Indian Navy has inducted eight of the 12 P-8I aircraft ordered from the US for $3.2 billion, which is packed with radars and armed with deadly Harpoon Block-II missiles, MK-54 lightweight torpedoes, rockets and depth charges, while the US Navy operates the P-8A variants.
    The US, of course, would like to include other countries like Australia in the Malabar war games on a regular basis to build interoperability in the Asia-Pacific region. But China views any such "naval grouping" as a move to contain it, and had lodged a strong protest against the Malabar exercise in the Bay of Bengal in 2007 when it had been expanded to include Japan, Australia and Singapore.


    Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...book.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=TOI
     
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  2. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    We should move to form a Task force ensuring freedom of international waters. Get Japan, Singapore, Vietnam , Australia , USA and ourselves in it.

    Place ships with nuke tipped Dhanush which can hit the southern economic centers of China from ships in South China sea.
     
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  3. defc0n

    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Will be superb if it happens, but I don't think that it will.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    I agree, the present leadership seems to deliver only a quarter of its 56 inch, at best, in dealing with Terrorism , Terrorist Nation and terrorism supporting nation.
     
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    defc0n 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Even otherwise, among the stated nations, I suppose only Vietnam and USA apart from India, will be overjoyed about it and will gleefully join. Rest, I am not very sure.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Japan too.

    And Australia and Singapore will be upon how serious are Americans about such a plan.
     
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    surya kiran 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Not for the next 10 years. Our attention should be towards our economy. Flexing of muscles can be done in external environments only when we are strong economically. We yet do not have the capability for power projection.

    10 years for economy. Plus 5 years from there is when we will be in a position to dominate China in the IOR. SCS will remain flag showing.
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    That is no more just an external thing.

    China clearly now is our enemy number 1.

    We cannot wait , while it uses all tactics against us, for the economy to improve.

    We have got to make do with what we have.
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Grevion Think Tank TROLL ELITE MEMBER

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    I doubt Modi out of nowhere just decided to align with USA. There were multiple meeting between him and his Chinese counterpart BRICS, G-20, bilateral meet and many more. He must have first pursued peace with China along with asking them to stop all kind of support to Pak establishment that hurts India and undermines our security(latest eg was submarine launched cruise missiles and the MIRVs which Pakistan claims to have developed 'indigenously'). It must have been China's unwillingness to give up their love affair with their higher then mountain friends which forced Modi to make a deal with USA.
    Obviously its all just speculation.:D
     
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    Abingdonboy Major Technical Analyst

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    Absolutely agree, without a strong economy India is worthless, India can afford a war less than China can.

    If we see the kind of strong economic growth we are expecting in the next 10-15 years, the Chinese will be in a world of hurt with India, it is clear to see why they are trying to distract an destabilise this effort right now. Let's hope the GoI doesn't take its eye off the ball.
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    What plesaure the Chinese derive by Protecting Masood Azhar and by denying
    India NSG membership

    They are CHEAP people ; third grade bullies
     
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    Nothing, they are just protecting their deeper then ocean friends. Pakistanis are very good at buttering and bowing down to their masters. The Chinese were all too happy to have a slave of a friend for the first time since Mao and culture revolution.
     
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    India's economic growth based on current projections isn't even close to enough. China's economy is 11 trillion dollars. India is at 2.1 trillion dollars. It's not like China is projected to stop growing or something. They are still gonna close to 5% GDP growth a year while India hovers around 7.5%

    For example, even though China's economy is bigger by roughly 5.5 amount, they still out grew India in % in 2016.
     
  15. smestarz

    smestarz Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The Chinese become robinson crusoe, and the Pakistanis become Friday..

     

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