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Midair Refuellers Tender - Airbus A330 MRTT Vs Boeing KC-46 Vs IL-78

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by PARIKRAMA, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The tender sadly was scrapped by the government, but the requirements doesn't change.
     
  2. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    IAF has no operational requirement to refuel the C17s. That's only needed for countries, that operate globally with their military forces and have tankers stationed abroad as well.
     
  3. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    how can you forget the ll-96-400tz (successor to the ll-78):cray:
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  4. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-04-17/russia-drops-plans-strategic-air-tanker
     
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  5. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-n...-cag-report/story-t7ZpQLHAsF8k7Pdm6wH7nN.html
     
  6. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    iv'e figured it out. india does not need to open tenders and get off its high horse and look for options that suit them. tenders are gonna give you brochure figures and when it comes to testing and deep evaluating then you see the true reflection of the product. id look at converting 767's into tankers.

    but before that. india needs to cut down on the airforce. kinda like what the Chinese are doing with their army. kill off and bases at seem stupid. heck get rid of the southern command . dont worry sri-lanka is not gonna invade just yet.
     
  7. Sancho

    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    It's more about competition to reduce costs. They want the A330 MRTT or the KC46, but Boeing did not participate in the last tender, since they were busy with the US tender. The former government extended the tender once, to give Boeing another chance and it seems this government does the same, by cancelling and re-issuing. As sad as it is.
     
  8. X_Killer

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  9. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    you need to "give a chance" just ask for it. heck order6 767-f's and convert them yourself and viola made(converted) in india tanker
     
  10. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Ok

    @Gessler @Abingdonboy @randomradio @Sancho @Ankit Kumar 001

    My grapevine sources tell me that there is new idea in town which is gaining traction as we speak. A defence PSU has come up with the brilliant idea of making a refueller and AWACS on board a single platform!!!!

    And they want to try it out with 04 x A330 which are likely to come in .. if the present RM does not develop cold feet like his predecessor (the CM) and the one prior to him .. the great Antony, over single vendor situation.

    And the gem ... Il-78s are hardly flying nowadays due to severe airframe damage sustained in a halestorm as MoD and MoF did not authorise any hangars for them!!!
     
  11. Gessler

    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    I don't understand...single platform meaning they'd want to use A330 variants as both AWACS-India carrier and MRTT? Makes sense. Or that they want the same aircraft to do AEW role AND tanker role at the same time? That doesn't make sense.

    I thought we'd be getting 6 A330s for AWACS (correct me if I'm wrong)?

    However the idea of having common platform for both roles has existed on the forum for years (guess PSU -which is it btw?- just caught up? :troll:)
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    I had written about it here and also to RM few months back giving the example of RAAF A-330 tankers and also suggested having common platform as AWAC and refueling aircraft. RAAF has taken ex-Qantas A-330 and converted then to mod air refuelers and VVIP aircraft in Australia itself. IAF can have a co0mbined AWAC and refueler in place of VVIP Transport+Refueler. This will allow the aircraft deployed to protect the AWAC being refueled by the AWAC itself.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    The idea is being floated and seriously being considered .... a combined tasking of a single platform being the AWACS and the aft portion of the airplane having tanks for refuelling ......

    Guess somebody has been reading this forum too much :D

    @vstol jockey I am not aware you had floated this idea but it seems to have tickled some imagination and left people flabbergasted .... all the best and put a copyright on your idea.


    Meanwhile, indecision will ensure that in another 7 years, IAF will be hard pressed for Air Dominance, forget Air supremacy against PAF .. leave alone two front.

    The worst possible governments have come ... UPA1 & 2 and now Modi, the latter has ensured that he has projected his image as being anti-forces already - a thought cutting across middle and senior ranking commanders across all services.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate THINKER

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    Copyright and sue them .. seems there is a proposal floating around in IHQ of MoD.. please check at your end.
     
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    This sounds like a terrible idea.
     

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