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MiG-29: Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by flanker143, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. ArmChairGeneral

    ArmChairGeneral Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    With Russia, MOD keeps on placing piecemeal orders. It fits into MOD's way of functioning, that is allocating money from annual budget.

    Rafale represents an upfront long term commitment. My view is that delay in ordering Rafale is nothing but a planning problem.

    If IAF allocation does not go up significantly in the next five years, I have difficulty how MOD will find the money for Rafale, while supporting other programs at the same time. Please remember that the current programs like ones with USA (C-17, C-130 etc.) also have to be paid for.

    Rafale is at least 2B USD per year program.
     
  2. ArmChairGeneral

    ArmChairGeneral Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    You guys are running too hard. Do not expect another Carrier (after Vikrant) before 2027. There may be a very brief period when Vikrant, Viraat, and Vikramaditya - all three are available in 2018-19. Then Viraat will go and two will be left.

    A Carrier is a very serious expense. I see no way India can afford even three at this time.

    Each carrier with air group will cost between 4-5B USD, and another 200M annually.
     
  3. S K Mittal

    S K Mittal Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    jus wait for change of leadership. you will see the change in things in2-3 yrs
     
  4. Manmohan Yadav

    Manmohan Yadav Brigadier STAR MEMBER

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    IAC-3 is still a proposal, there is nothing official about it
     
  5. S K Mittal

    S K Mittal Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    nor on wikipedia also
     
  6. Punya Pratap

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    Great pics @ Gessler... I loved this jet with its earlier streamlined design but now it looks like the hunchback of notre dame !!
     
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  7. Gessler

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    New ELT-568 AESA-based active jammers on IAF MiG-29UPG.

    This may well be the most capable active self-protection jammer around this part of the world.
     
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  8. Gessler

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    IAF MiG-29UPG with Thales/SAMTEL TopSight-I HMDS.

    Thanks to Abingdonboy for the picture.
     
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  9. Sancho

    Sancho Major Technical Analyst

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    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Which is bizarre, because on Force India, he wrote that the HMS on the MiG-29UPG would be the Sh-3UM HMS.

    That, of course, was about a year ago. Entirely possible, I suppose, that there's been some quiet decision made in the mean time.
     
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  13. Sancho

    Sancho Major Technical Analyst

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    It's not clearly visible from this angle, but it definitely looks different from the helmets the Russian pilots uses, when they did the testflights in Russia.

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    So the question now is, was that pic shot in Russia in one of the last test flights? If yes, it could be an upgraded Russian helmet. But if it was shot in India and all the pics from Russia only showed different helmets, it is more likely to be a testflight to integrate the Samtel helmet.
    By the fact that we use the same on Mig 29Ks, my bet is on Divya Dristhi!
     
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