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MiG 35 The New Formidable Challenger In The Skies

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  1. GSLV Mk III

    GSLV Mk III Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Really? Nearly all allegations of corruption in the Indian Armed Forces have been thoroughly investigated.

    Don't use your ignorance to your own advantage.
     
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    Show me what happens to people that take bribes in India. Cant seem to find anything. Corruption happens its whats done about it that counts.
     
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    Stick to topic or move discussions to an appropriate thread!
     
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    I do get side tracked easily
     
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    Under the UPG program ,HAL had received licence to build RD33MK engines for 60 Mig29.
     
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    Google SP Tyagi
     
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    India has acquired the right to manufacture Saint-Petersburg’s engines
    Today Russian Minister of Defence, Vice-Prime Minister Ivanov, has signed a contract on license production of RD-33 series 3 engines in India. Klimov JSC, being the designer of the engine, has been defined as the head enterprise on supply of the design documents.
    The contract in amount of 250 million US dollars provides for the establishment of the production line for 120 upgraded RD-33 engines with increased service life at the base of HAL (Hindustan Aeronautics Limited) Indian Corporation. In addition to the design documents supply Klimov JSC will provide Indian partners with the maintenance and consulting support. In future the technical specialists of Klimov JSC based in Saint-Petersburg will supervise the observance of the RD-93 production technology. Klimov JSC as the designer of the wide range of gas turbine engines takes part in all projects on establishment of the production and repair lines of its products.
     
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    Is that article really Jan 1, 2007 24.01.2007 H0ws that working out. ???
     
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    Twice Bitten, Why India will shy away from Russia’s Mig-35 offer
    Published January 30, 2017
    SOURCE: Anand SG / FOR MY TAKE / IDRW.ORG

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    Russia is all set to offer India, again an upgraded Mig-35 reportedly equipped with AESA radar and 5th Generation communication avionics to meet India’s requirement for new 4++ Generation fighter jets.

    While Mig-35 fighter jet is still predominantly based on Baseline Mig-29 design but comes with new equipment and avionics to which will be offered in its modern avatar to existing customers of Mig-29 as a replacement and will start inducting them from 2019 onwards in its own fleet to replace ageing Mig-29s and other light fighter aircraft.

    India at present operates more than 100 Mig-29s, Indian Air Force operates nearly three squadrons (62 aircraft) in the air superiority role which all have been upgraded to the latest MiG-29UPG standard which now comes with RD-33 series 3 engines along with Zhuk-ME airborne radar system.

    Indian Navy also operates 45 MiG-29K for its carrier-based operations but their lies a common problem which has resulted in low serviceability of aircraft in squadrons and consequent shortfalls in operational tasks, which continues to be faced by the Mig-29 fleet in India.

    MiG-29A which was procured from the erstwhile Soviet Union in the late eighties to counter the Pakistani F-16s suffered from a Sub-optimal supply of spares and in many cases also saw premature withdrawals of RD-33 engines due to serious defects in workmanships. Serviceability status of Mig-29A fluctuated between 25 and 30 percent initially but improved since 2004-05 to 43 and 62 per cent but still short of magical 75% which IAF tries to maintain.

    MiG-29K in Indian Navy, as per Comptroller and Auditor General of India faces operational deficiencies due to defects in engines, airframe and fly-by-wire system leading to very low availability. carrier-borne MiG-29K is riddled with problems relating to the airframe, RD MK-33 engine and fly-by-wire system. Serviceability status of MiG-29K is still fluctuating in ranges from 15.93 per cent to 37.63 per cent.

    MiG-29 fleet in India has a history of inordinate delays of spares, poor performance, poor maintenance works resulting into consequent shortfalls in operational tasks all contributing into low serviceability of all aircraft, it is unlikely that India will seriously consider Mig-35 as a serious contender for its 4++ Generation fighter jet requirements.
     
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    The date says 24 January 2007.

    What's with 1st January ?
     
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    Report: India's Russian-made MiG-29K Fighters Face Problems
    By: Vivek Raghuvanshi, August 10, 2016 (Photo Credit: Indian Navy)
    NEW DELHI — The Indian Navy's primary fighter operating from the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya faces operational deficiencies due to defects in engines, airframes and fly-by-wire systems, according to a report by India's autonomous auditor, the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG). However, Indian Navy officials say the Russian-made MiG-29K remains the best choice available.

    The report said the "aircraft MiG-29K is being technically accepted despite having discrepancies and anomalies."

    India ordered 45 MiG-29K aircraft and equipment worth $2.2 billion in two separate orders — in 2004 and 2010 — from Russia. It is the primary combat platform on Vikramaditya, which was acquired from Russia when it was known as the Admiral Gorshkov.

    The MiG-29K aircraft are also expected to serve on the homemade aircraft carrier INS Vikrant, which is still under construction.

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    Arun Prakash, who served as chief of the Indian Naval Staff, evaluated the aircraft in 1999 before the purchase from Russia. The retired admiral said: "There are the only two fighters — MiG-29K and Sukhoi-33 — in the world capable of operations from a Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery, a system used for the launch and recovery of aircraft from the deck of an aircraft carrier like INS Vikramaditya. There is no better fighter available to replace the MiG-29K."

    However, Prakash is highly critical of what he called the "lethargy" by the Russians in the manufacturing and maintenance of the aircraft.

    On problems with the engine, the CAG report said: "Since induction in February 2010, 40 engines (62 percent) of twin-engined MiG-29K have been withdrawn from service/rejected due to design-related defects."

    Additionally, the serviceability of the warplanes was low, ranging from 21.30 percent to 47.14 percent, according to the report.

    "The roots of these problems (serviceability and defects) lie in the extremely poor quality control in the Russian military-industrial complex and dismal product support being rendered by the Russian industry to the Indian Navy for the past 25 years," Prakash said. "This is in spite of the fact that the development of the MiG-29K has been totally funded by the Indian Navy."

    On how the aircraft could affect combat worthiness of the Navy, the CAG report said: "The service life of MiG -29K is 6,000 hours or 25 years (whichever is earlier) but the deficiencies and snags in the aircraft is likely to reduce the operational life of the aircraft, thereby affecting combat worthiness of [the Indian] Navy."

    Detailing the defects of the engine on MiG-29K, the report noted that "even as the RD-33 MK engine (mounted on MiG-29K) was considered an advancement over the engine of the MiG-29K, its reliability remains questionable."

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    India To Upgrade Sukhoi Fleet With Russia's Help

    "The engine-design defects should be rectified with the utmost urgency at the Russians' cost," Prakash said. "Any respectable company, conscious of its reputation, would attend to this. But the oligarchs who control the Russian military-industrial complex are too brazen, for two reasons: (a) they know that India has not choice and (b) they are confident that Indian politicians will never turn the screw on them."

    However, retired Indian Navy commodore and independent defense analyst, Sujeet Samaddar, gave no credence to the CAG report.

    "I firmly believe auditors have no experience or professional ability to comment on technical matters of a modern state — just putting numbers and percentages."

    A Ministry of Defence official would not comment in detail on the CAG report, but said: "MiG-29K will remain the primary combat fighter for the Indian Navy."

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    Evidently India started producing the engine ten years ago, how did that work out.

    It looks like even the Russian cant make the engine, 60 percent return rate.
     
  14. Ankit Kumar 001

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    The production didn't start then,it started much later. The training of personnel and setting up of infrastructure required time [which in India's case is much more].

    But as of today , 90%+ contract has been fulfilled.

    The first 2 aircrafts upgraded in India successfully passed the tests conducted by a joint IAF and HAL testing team in various geographical areas around India.
     
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    Expect it did not work out or other wise India would not be paying France 244 million each for obsolete 4th generation Rafales.
     

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