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Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Osiris, Oct 15, 2010.

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  1. Osiris

    Osiris Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    Even though there is little that surprises people at this juncture, the report that no less than three million weapons have disappeared from official warehouses in Punjab is appalling.

    The details are shocking and give us an idea of the layers of corruption in the law-enforcement structure in the country’s most populous province. Yesterday, this newspaper carried a report based on an official document that revealed the ways in which weapons including grenades and Kalashnikov submachine guns seized from criminals and terrorists went missing: one, not all the arms seized by the police from individuals and gangs were deposited in the district and provincial malkhanas; two, no less than three million of a bewildering variety of arms deposited in the two categories of malkhanas and arsenals of the official bomb disposal squad disappeared.

    The Punjab home department must be commended for preparing the report. In fact, it must have been shocked by the contents of the finding. It is a mystery though why the Punjab government did not deem it fit to order an inquiry to fix guilt and take action against those involved in a criminal enterprise of such dimensions. While the details of the weapons that have disappeared have been covered in the Dawn story, it bears repetition to recall that the number of lethal weapons which have gone missing include 3,454 grenades and 4, 490 of the killing machines that are Kalashnikovs.

    One can only guess the modus operandi and motives behind the weapons lost. A large number of the weapons must have been sold to criminals by men who are supposed to guard the arsenal, and many others must have been gifted to terrorist outfits. If this is established, this could well mean the Taliban and a large number of other terrorist militias have sympathisers and activists well-entrenched in the provincial law-enforcement machinery.

    The disappearances could also mean that Punjab warehouses are one of the terrorists’ major sources of arms — and not only in Punjab. The meticulous details in the report about the number of weapons deposited with the provincial warehouses and the arms which are still there with the malkhanas show on the whole that some people in the provincial law-enforcement agencies and their overseers do after all care about their job. That in spite of this record-keeping the weapons should disappear is indeed ironic. We expect the Punjab government to release the inquiry report, if and when it is ready, and hope this will prompt the other provinces to take stock of what they have and what they have not.

    DAWN.COM | Editorial | Missing weapons
     
  2. brain_dead

    brain_dead Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    these weapons are not missing by accident.
    they have been gifted to taliban and other pakistani freindly parties to carry on their activities.
    everone wonders where do taliban gets there weapons from, now its clear they are using pakistani army's weapons.

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  3. brain_dead

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    Arms were seized over 10 years: 3 million weapons go missing from govt store

    LAHORE, Oct 13: The Punjab government has yet to take action on a confidential report by the provincial home department that 3.12 million sophisticated weapons, including hand-grenades, seized from hardened criminals, have gone missing from the official warehouses in the last 10 years or so.

    According to the report available with Dawn, 3,454 grenades, 4,490 Kalashnikovs, 43,954 rifles and 66,695 guns are also among the weapons gone missing. The other armaments include revolvers, pistols, carbines, cartridges and sharp-edged weapons.

    The report, which was compiled in the beginning of this year, was also forwarded to the Punjab government for action.

    When contacted, a spokesman for the Punjab police, however, denied the statistics highlighted by the home department in its report.

    Official sources informed Dawn it was the first ever report compiled on the statistics of the weapons seized during a period of 10 years from the criminals. Earlier, they said, the reports were being prepared annually or quarterly.

    “The home department compiled data on the basis of the information gathered primarily from the Punjab police and other government departments like the Anti-Corruption Establishment and the Punjab ombudsman,” an official said.

    The Punjab police had impounded these arms from terrorists, hardened criminals and during search operations and crackdowns, he added.

    “This data was later compared with the official figures of the government departments, and the report was finalised identifying the high number of illegal weapons gone missing,” he said.

    These weapons were not deposited with the provincial Malkhana after disposal of the cases from courts, the source claimed.

    The report only mentions the data without holding any department or person responsible for the arms theft or any flaws or negligence on the part of the Punjab police.

    “The report gives a ‘message’ to the authorities about a wide difference between the number of the year-wise weapons ‘recovered and deposited with official stores,” the official said.

    The source said such a large cache of weapons mentioned in the report also highlighted the availability of deadly weapons with criminals who transported them from one part of the province to other.

    According to the report, of the 3,456 grenades seized from criminals in the last 10 years, only two were deposited by the Punjab police with the provincial Malkhana. Similarly, of 5,128 Kalashnikovs, 638 could reach the store; of 52,307 rifles, 8,353 were sent to the Malkhana; of 79,973 rifles, 13,278 were deposited to the Malakhana; of 340,155 revolvers, 27,458 were deposited with the store; of 57,250 carbines, 9,400 reached the store; of 273,3478 cartridges, 105,689 were deposited with Malkhana; and 1,527 sharp-edged weapons were deposited to Malkhana out of 18,170 seized from criminals.

    The spokesman of the Punjab police said the weapons seized in the cases under investigation were kept in the Malkhana of the police station.

    The weapons seized in the cases being heard by courts are kept in district Malkhanas (judicial Malkhanas).

    After the trial is concluded and the judgment announced, the weapons are confiscated by the court and sent from district Malkhanas to the provincial Malkhana that is fire arms bureau of Punjab.

    Some weapons are returned to their owners permanently or on a ‘superdari’ by the courts. However, hand-grenades are stored in the arsenal store of the bomb disposable squad.

    About the weapons recovered and deposited by the Punjab police, the spokesman said of 3,317 hand-grenades recovered by the Punjab police in last 10 years, 389 were lying in police stations, 736 in district Malkhanas and 2,192 in the provincial Malkhana.

    Similarly, of 5,607 Kalashnikovs, 460 are lying in police stations, 3,662 in district Malkhanas, 1,138 to the provincial Malkhana and 347 have been returned to their owners; of 49,823 rifles, 2,059 are in Malkhanas of police stations, 29,636 in district Malkhanas, 10,150 in the provincial Malkhana and 7,978 have been returned to their owners; of 77,366 guns, 23,19 are in police stations, 46,756 in district Malkhanas, 16,752 in the provincial Malkhana and 11,539 have been returned to their owners; of 310,951 pistols/revolvers, 217,95 are in police stations, 207,751 in district Malkhanas, 66,804 in the provincial Malkhana and 14,601 have been returned to their owners; of 700,93 carbines, 1,646 are in police stations, 54,651 in district Malkhanas, 13,546 in the provincial Malkhana and 250 have been returned to their owners; of 2.31 million cartridges 285,738 are lying in police stations, 142,8772 in district Malkhanas, 444,938 in the provincial Malkhana and 157,342 have been returned to their owners; of 16,900 sharp-edged weapons, 25,28 are lying in police stations, 12,232 in district Malkhanas, 2,102 in the provincial Malkhana and 38 sharp-edged weapons have been returned to their owners.

    The spokesman said the police department’s figures pertaining to the weapons have also been dispatched to the home department by the Punjab police to keep its record updated or for any other reference.

    DAWN.COM | Lahore | Arms were seized over 10 years: 3 million weapons go missing from govt store
     
  4. brain_dead

    brain_dead Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    3 million weapons.. gosh.. thats a big big number. it would be naive to believe that pakistani agencies n army werent aware of it.
    it must have been systematically supplied to terrorist organistaions for sure.
    but why is it being exposed now all of a sudden ?
     
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    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Totally agree with that. I hope nuclear weapons are safe.
     
  6. brain_dead

    brain_dead Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    if nuclear weapons are safe(which i do believe) then we must thank to America for this, agar Pakistan ka bas chale to they would arm all thier brotherly organisations like JUD, LET , Taliban etc. with nuclear weapons too.
     
  7. JANA

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    :lol: lolzzz the civilian govt is responsible for the store keeping and monitoring these godowns not the Army or intelligence.

    Above all keeping in view feudal political system in Punjab and Sindh its not a new thing. The successive civilian governments have been arming their activists since long in these two provinces.

    No wonder most of these weapons are being used by people under these waderas.
     
  8. JANA

    JANA 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    BTW what happened to those 600 missing trucks full of explosives in India ???


    i hope Maoists have not laid hands on it ;)
     
  9. brain_dead

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    as per the reports it has been going on for the past 10 years. how long has this civilian govt been in the power..??
    moreover this civil thingy is actually a deciet.
    why is it exposed now ?
     
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    jagjitnatt Major ELITE MEMBER

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    Ahhemm, It was 60 ma'am. And it wasn't explosives, it was explosive material, which is used to manufacture explosives.
     
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    brain_dead Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    yup. ure correct, maoists have not laid there hands on it.
    but these 3 million assault rifles n machine guns have surely come into the hands of terrorists, all thanks to pakistani agencies.
     
  12. JANA

    JANA 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    As per the reports Arms were seized over 10 years which means Musharraf Govt has seized most of the arms which are missing now in the civilian govt rule.


    Above all keeping in view the hostility against current Punjab govt by the central govt of PPP, exaggeration is not ruled out.
     
  13. JANA

    JANA 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    :lol: if Maoists have not laid hands on those explosive trucks missing In India then surely Saffron Brigade might be having it thanks to Indian agencies.

    I am still looking for any trail on those explosive missing in India
     
  14. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    I think the trail of those 3 million weapons is still strong ,Stick to sniffing it out ,let the Indians take care of Indian problems...........
     
  15. brain_dead

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    no blast reported in India since those trucks got missing, so definately they have not laid into wrong hands, but in pakistan's case, we all know who is using all these "missing" weapons.
    moreover, this is india, not pakistan where u would see religiously motivated brigades writing kaffirs on dead bodies.
     
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