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MMRCA Fighter deal bigger: 126 will rise to 260

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  1. THE_MAGNIFICENT

    THE_MAGNIFICENT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Feb. 12: It is already known as the world’s biggest defence import deal in a long time. Now, it transpires, it is even bigger than that. The Indian Air Force is in the market to buy 126 Medium Multi-role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) from one of six foreign vendors bidding for the contract.

    Over time, however, the IAF plans to buy 260 of them, Deccan Chronicle has learnt. That means, what has been talked about as a $10-12 billion deal will eventually fetch the winner of the contract close to $25 billion.

    While the IAF floated a request for proposal (RFP) for only 126 fighters, sources privy to the armed forces’ Long-Term Integrated Perspective Plan said that that document puts the number of medium fighter jets the IAF needs at is 260. Ministry of defence officials, however, refused to confirm that there was any plan beyond the current RFP.

    America’s Lockheed Martin (F-16) and Boeing (F/A-18), the 4-nation Eurofighter consortium (Typhoon), France’s Dassault (Rafale), Sweden's SAAB (Gripen) and Russia’s Mikoyan-Gureyvich (MiG-35) are locked in a high-intensity public relations as well as behind-the-scenes war to win the contract.

    Air Chief P.V. Naik had on Thursday said that the Contract Negotiations Committee would achieve key milestones towards evaluating the packages offered by the various vendors in a week or two and that the contract would be ready for signing by September, except if "dissatisfied vendors put a spoke in the wheel".

    That, sources said, looked almost inevitable given the size of the contract and what it could do to the fortunes of the winner. It could potentially keep alive assembly lines for some fighters from the 1970s/1980s vintage for another 30 years, ensuring that some 25,000 to 30,000 people would find employment in what are currently stricken economies in the US and Europe.

    The sources also said that the eventual number of the frontline air superiority Sukhoi-30 MKIs from Russia in the IAF's fleet would also go up to 280.

    The IAF would need these higher numbers of combat jets of different classes considering that it has to plan for threats coming from two fronts.

    Fighter deal bigger: 126 will rise to 260 | Deccan Chronicle | 2011-02-13
     
  2. THE_MAGNIFICENT

    THE_MAGNIFICENT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    What is IAF planing :wacko:

    260 MMRCA
    280 MKI (upgraded Wid AESA)
    69Mig-29 (upgraded)
    51 Mirage 2k (upgraded)
    200 LCA
    AMCA
    300 Pak FA


    What are they gonna do ?
     
  3. Coltsfan

    Coltsfan <b>SENIOR MEMBER</b> SENIOR MEMBER

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    Force Pakistanis to compete and get them bankrupt sooner.

    Once US is out of Afghanistan, Pakistanis won't be getting any freebies from west anymore.
     
  4. desiman

    desiman Lieutenant ELITE MEMBER

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    The Chinese :)
     
  5. THE_MAGNIFICENT

    THE_MAGNIFICENT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Man Our Plans are Noway Pak centric . just make a simple calculation and see what is going to be happen.

    NUmber --------------- Fighter

    260 ------------- MMRCA
    280 -------------- MKI
    300 -------------- Pak FA/FGFA
    69 ------------- Mig29
    51 ------------ Mirage2000
    200 ------------- LCA

    TOTAL = 1160 Fighter jets :butcher::2GUNS::cheesy:

    Let 18 jet per squadron then 1160/18 = 64.4 squadron in year 2020.
    I am not including AMCA. :cheesy::cheers::flame::butcher:
     
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  6. aakash

    aakash 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    And these are just fighter planes! Actual IAF inventory is much bigger that that! Training jets, Transport aircrafts, AWACS, UAVs, Helicopters! Man IAF is on fire!

    And the best fighter plane PAF would have is F-16 [and that too block 20 and some block 30-40s] and Jf-17??! loooool
     
  7. aakash

    aakash 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    And btw how many squadrons does China currently have?
     
  8. Vritra

    Vritra Major ELITE MEMBER

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    I think they're gonna mount an airborne invasion of Tamil Nadu, bombard Chennai till Rajni Kanth promises not to make any more films.

    .....But that's probably just me.
     
  9. THE_MAGNIFICENT

    THE_MAGNIFICENT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Currently 70+.
     
  10. aakash

    aakash 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    And we just have 32-34? Damn! That's not even half!
     
  11. Hashu

    Hashu Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    don't wrry! most of the chinese planes are cheap copies and most of their airforce is stationed near tiawan and japan!
     
  12. CONNAN

    CONNAN Major ELITE MEMBER

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    half of the Chinese fighters are 2nd and third generation fighters so i think we are in a much better shape as far as quality is concerned.
     
  13. GareebNawaz

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    Yea right 200 tejas...
     
  14. THE_MAGNIFICENT

    THE_MAGNIFICENT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    ^^ Any doubt ??
     
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    Tshering22 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    The official figures are anywhere close to that figure, man. The IAF pilot in testing with ADA has told clearly that though Tejas has taken time, it will be 5 times better than what is there today. That's 4+++ generation enough to consider seeing services for next 25 years. So expect anywhere near 200.

    I don't think it will be 260 MRCA. It could be 200-210, but 50 more is too much for 4+++ generation. As for what IAF is planning, it was supposed to do these changes in early 90s, which we didn't have money to transform and update. So now we are doing it en masse which is appearing something amazing. It isn't. They are just doing what they should have 15 years ago. But this has the advantage that we get higher and more evolved technology to replace than we had 15 years back.
     
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