Dismiss Notice
Welcome to IDF- Indian Defence Forum , register for free to join this friendly community of defence enthusiastic from around the world. Make your opinion heard and appreciated.

MRCA Updates and Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by gowthamraj, Apr 15, 2010.

?

Should India go for Dassault Rafale or not?

  1. Yes -Absolutely.

    67 vote(s)
    57.8%
  2. No - Better to invest that in our Aerospace Industry and opt for AMCA and Tejas Mk. I & II etc.

    49 vote(s)
    42.2%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel REGISTERED

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2013
    Messages:
    11,206
    Likes Received:
    6,312
  2. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    8,328
    Likes Received:
    6,264
    Country Flag:
    France
    BON PLAN likes this.
  3. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    15,448
    Country Flag:
    India
  4. TickTickIndian

    TickTickIndian BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    189
    Country Flag:
    India
    I keep coming back to this post again and again because reading it makes me so happy. It is like eye candy. So beautiful it's almost unbelievable.
     
    kiduva21 and vstol jockey like this.
  5. TickTickIndian

    TickTickIndian BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    189
    Country Flag:
    India
    @vstol jockey I guess I already have the tag of being paranoid. But why does our NSA believe French equipment doesn't come with kill switches??
     
  6. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    15,448
    Country Flag:
    India
    Bcoz they have never ever let down anyone in history with such acts. Remember Iran and F-14s?
     
  7. TickTickIndian

    TickTickIndian BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    189
    Country Flag:
    India
    Maybe, but they did show hidden agendas when they colonized certain Asian nations. If they could do that to one of us, they can do it to all of us. I think they will decide differently based on the stakes at hand, like you said Modi might go to war because the stakes are high for BJP.
     
  8. TickTickIndian

    TickTickIndian BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    999
    Likes Received:
    189
    Country Flag:
    India
    Maybe the French are better than the rest. But you don't ever gamble with your nations future. I think French Rafele TOT should be used to buld our own better make of Tejas, and we should rely only on them.

    Rafele and all non-native weapons should only be used in low-stakes wars.
     
  9. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    15,448
    Country Flag:
    India
    Rafale deal cleared to be signed on Friday.
     
  10. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    251
    Country Flag:
    India
    How many single seater and how many twin seaters? Some body pls also share the weapons list apart from meteor and mica? Can't wait till Friday.:rafale:
     
  11. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    8,328
    Likes Received:
    6,264
    Country Flag:
    France
  12. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    15,448
    Country Flag:
    India
    Yup, that's it with full tech of weapons shown in the above picture.
     
  13. somedude

    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2014
    Messages:
    1,499
    Likes Received:
    1,111
    Country Flag:
    Afghanistan
    Look at it this way: if the aircraft India procured from France would come with devices or contractual clauses preventing India from doing whatever India needs to do with them, would India then buy further aircraft from France? If the Rafale came with kill switches, it'd be the last time France would manage to sell them to India.

    America has a much larger economy, a much larger military, and a much larger diplomatic presence. American equipment is, all things being equal, cheaper than French equipment because they can get much better economies of scale, as their production runs will be at the very least ten times larger. (This was also true of Russia while it was the head of the Soviet Union.) So what are France's advantages? 1: Quality -- France is willing to sell things of equal quality to what they use, instead of "monkey models". 2: Independence -- France is willing to treat you on an equal footing instead of requiring vassalization. Take those things away and nobody will buy from France anymore.
     
  14. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    15,448
    Country Flag:
    India
    You nailed it. France will be out of armament biz if they resorted to kill switch. But our exp with France during Kargil war gives us the confidence that we can Trust France completely.
    The deal will be signed on Friday which is my "Old Monk Evening". I will drink myself nuts and if I post any bullshit, @Mods pls delete that.
     
    surya kiran likes this.
  15. Ved Mishra

    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2011
    Messages:
    955
    Likes Received:
    251
    Country Flag:
    India
    Is it storm shadow?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page