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Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by gowthamraj, Apr 15, 2010.

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Should India go for Dassault Rafale or not?

  1. Yes -Absolutely.

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  2. No - Better to invest that in our Aerospace Industry and opt for AMCA and Tejas Mk. I & II etc.

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  1. Picdelamirand-oil

    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    No it's SCALP, Storm Shadow is the UK version of the SCALP, all the technology is French.
     
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    BMD Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    The seeker isn't on the UK version.
     
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    somedude Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Some odd details in this article: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rafale-2last/1/770139.html
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    does this mantra work for home grown projects or only foreign maal?
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    It works for everyone. Patience is always rewarded.
    each Rafale will cost India $95m in unit fly away cost.
     
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    WegWeg 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    They are the same missile, different name. Stop trying to promote the lie that everything 30% owned by French companies is 100 % French.
     
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    MBDA is a big conglomerate formed from several companies from three different countries, and it does have British weapons designed by British teams for the British government and French weapons designed by French teams for the French government. The SCALP-EG is an example of the latter; the British merely joined in a few years later because it made sense for them to do so.

    The SCALP-EG/StormShadow originates from the 1991 French program APTGD (armement propulsé très grande distance, very long range propelled weapon) and is a derivative of the French anti-runway missile Apache. It is propelled by a Microturbo TRI 60-30 turbojet, designed and built by Turbomeca, a Safran subsidiary. The weapon design was finalized by Matra (the M in MBDA) in 1994. In 1997 they partnered with BAE Dynamic (the BD in MBDA) to compete for a British tender, which they won. The warhead you could argue is mostly British, but it was a joint project involving Thomson (now Thales) on the French side.

    The missiles aren't different originally (the only differences are external peripherals), though on the French side, a hundred SCALPs were modernized in 2015.
     
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    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    :rockroll:
    :rockroll::cheers::rafale::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Ved Mishra Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Impressive range of 560km for Scalp. No need for IAF to even enter pakistani airspace.
    Does it have a naval strike version?
     
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    BON PLAN Major SENIOR MEMBER

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    ??? I think it is. If not it's not a metric weapon, but a decametric one.
     
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    Because SCALP is a near derivative of the APACHE missile. And APACHE was 100% french.
    as easy as that.
     
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    Are you sure you will received the full range SCALP ? UAE and RSA received a shorter legs missile called "black shaheen" (250km range).
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    They are not signatory to MTCR. India is. And the deal includes transfer of tech of the propulsion system of this missile.
     
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