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Multi-Role Carrier Borne Fighter For The Indian Navy - Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Agent_47, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    We normally deploy our assets from shore in such eventuality. Even in Sea Harriers we had two Op Locations, one from deck one from an advanced base on shore.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    That's fine within IOR. I mean I gave the Mig-29K example with all the ranges to different airstrips around IOR for the same reason. But not fine if we want to leave IOR.

    I still feel it is a useless waste of money to focus on a new aircraft for the current crop of carriers for the same reason you stated above. Too much money will go into just building infrastructure for the Rafales. We should go straight away for a Mig-29 GTG with offsets and such and initiate a new tender for MII of 100+ catobar jets after 2020.

    But @CNL-PN-AA believes the Mig-29K isn't a good jet for carriers.
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The problem is that IAC-2 design is stuck for clarity on next deck based fighter.
     
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    sunstersun Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I'm just curious, I haven't heard any direct sources but what's the deal with EMALS? I have no idea if the new carrier plans on it, or if America will provide the technology, or if it's conditional or whatever.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The US will provide EMALS and the AAR.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    If they are really planning on deciding on an aircraft today for a carrier to be operated after 2035, then good luck to them. They are gonna be stuck for a long time.

    Rather they should buy 57 Mig-29Ks, 24 F-35Bs and 1 30000T Mistral LHD with extra aviation facilities with the same amount of money as 57 Rafales. The Mig-29s will fit in seamlessly into the carriers. Some F-35Bs can also be operated from the carriers, we will get an extra mini-carrier and STOVL capability.

    This way they can push the carrier plans to 2040 and actually build a proper supercarrier instead of a medium sized carrier with some obsolete Rafales. By then AMCA will be a solid contender.
     
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    sunstersun Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Without any purchase of any additional US hardware? Seems interesting. Although I can imagine why the USA wants to help out anyway they can in regards to the navy.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    We have bought billions in US hardware. Apache, Chinook, P-8I, C-130J, C-17, these are all big ticket purchases. Then there's a whole bunch of UAVs and UCAVs. Some reactors as well.
     
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    sunstersun Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Oh yeah I know that, I just meant like something directly related to it, sorta like treating the EMALS as an offset.

    Ie purchasing superhornets or something.
     
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    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    The EMALS belongs to General Atomics. And we are buying a bunch of UAVs from them. Guardian, Avenger...
     
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    The 24 F-35 B will cost more than the 57 Rafale in LCC....
     
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    sunstersun Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    Picdelamirand-oil Lt. Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Cost of 57 rafale flying hour 57* 9805.56 = 558916.92
    Cost of 24 F-35 flying hour 24*29685 = 712440
     
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    For Nato nation or non Nato nation, provided India don't have Cosmos, BECA deal signatory, what capability does IN will have without US surveillance, and US satellite inputs and whether IN have any plans to operate away from IOR.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    We have a demand for catapults and they have the monopoly on the supply side, so they set the terms and conditions and we can only say, we agree or not.
    For years they (the US government) denied it and now at least the option is back on the table, but surely will have it's price.
     
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