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Multi-Role Carrier Borne Fighter For The Indian Navy - Updates & Discussions

Discussion in 'Indian Navy' started by Agent_47, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    The maintenance of the ships is divided based on time period. That may require dry docking for bottom cleaning or may just require wet basin visit. Major maintenance takes place once in about 5-6 yrs. Minor maintenance work is on 24x7. Wet basin visits are normally to upgrade systems and sensors. Dry docking is required to clean and upgrade systems below water line and bottom cleaning, rust removal, repaint etc. The duration can vary from few weeks to an year.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Yes I did, that's why I specifically added the payload figures for each config, to show that even with reduced MTOW or payload, Rafale can carry more than a Mig in the same mission from a STOBAR carrier.
     
  3. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    That's only during peacetime. During wartime, it is obvious that the carriers will be put to use. In fact, our situation is such that we will know months in advance before war happens. It's because our enemies will require months to move troops and create conditions necessary for an invasion. In China's case, we need to prepare for weather also because 6 months in a year we can't fight due to the snow.

    So if China wants to attack India, they have to prepare in the spring and attack in the summer. If India has to attack Pakistan, we must do so in winter. That way China cannot interfere because the mountain passes are closed. So weather is a huge factor and carrier availability is most important from spring to autumn.

    The idea is to make sure 2 carriers are always available. So only 1 carrier at a time is undergoing overhaul.
     
  4. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    A carrier under deep maintenance or overhaul can be in for considerable time like up to 24 months but all other maintenance can be cut short and carrier deployed quickly. Like in recent Docklam crisis, Vikky was in for 40 day maintenance in Kochi and was pulled out within 24 days.
     
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    ranadd 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    You have an air force that complains about not enough fighter airframes, PSUs pushing for trainers as fighters and you would like dedicated airframes for EW?

    India cannot afford to keep up with the dragon. And dragon is not going to fight the tiger either.

    Better have EW pods or airframes that can be modified for EW. Dedicated frames are not needed for the foreseeable future.
     
  6. randomradio

    randomradio Colonel Technical Analyst

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    95m and 195m.

    For Mig-29K.
    MTOW at 95m is 17.5T.
    MTOW at 195m is 22.5T.
     
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    Gessler Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    This is what I was asking. No one procures a new type of airframe just for EW. Even USN Growler is a modified Super Hornet airframe. Chinese EA aircraft is a modified J-11/J-16.

    If at all IAF requires dedicated EW aircraft, we'll have to modify a Su-30MKI or Rafale airframe for the job.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    There is no need for dedicated EW fighters anymore, you just need the necessary jamming equipment. Russians, Israelis and now Swedish options could be available to us.
     
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    ranadd 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    I was talking about a swing role situation. The examples you have given is permanent if I am not mistaken
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Wud like to correct you here.The Vikky ramp angle is 14.3*. Those russians with tons of vodka inside them cud not keep it down to 14*. The Smallest deck run is 125m followed by 190m & 195m. The ramp length is 50m. The stopping distance from third wire is 91m. The wires are numbered from aft to front.
     
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    How bad is this problem?
     
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    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    Its not a problem but shows the poor workmanship.
     
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    Sancho Lt. Colonel Technical Analyst

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    Can you add infos / sources for that?
     
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    I have a new insider information for you:
    Rafale is able to use Vikki lift, but the wingspan has exactly the same dimensions as the width of the lift, so it's not possible for every day operations to use the lift without modification of the aircraft. As I have previously said, and I had confirmation now, they studied and proposed a modification to make plug and play the missile launchers at the end of the wing.
     
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