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Muslim man dies after being brutally beaten up by cow vigilantes in Rajasthan's Alwar

Discussion in 'Internal Affairs' started by OverLoad, Apr 1, 2017.

  1. Flyboy!

    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I used to eat beef. I quit because of my concern for global warming , not some religious issues. Beef in india is water buffalo meat. I know people well into their 80s who are beef eaters and they have no health issues .. bjp have made cows a big deal because it's given them some agenda and had generated a lot of employment for their sevaks.
     
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  2. Averageamerican

    Averageamerican Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    So far so good.
     
  3. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    People in their 80's didnt have pesticides or artificial preservatives, hormones pumped into food sources or animals. In olden days living into 80's was rare.That means they have strong gene pool of longevity and health,doesn't mean it is a norm for everyone.
    Like the case of my family,everyone in our family live past 90's unless its a death by accident or unnatural causes.
    My grandfather used to smoke since he was 7 years old, he died fit and walking in his 99th year.
    That doesn't mean a normal person who smoked since they are 7 years old kid,won't get cancer and live into their 80's. Exceptions cannot be called as normal for everyone.

    How would you know it was water buffalo meat? are you going to send it to a lab to find out?Whole world is going vegan for a reason and those who heckled Hindus for being vegetarians are now seeing reason and benefits of healthy life.
     
  4. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Do a jejunostomy then. And make sure that the 3-0 Lambert is properly put in place. Or are you using staplers? :D
     
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  5. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    Article 48 of Constitution of India.

    Read it.

    Then

    Mohammed Hanif Quareshi v. State of West Bengal (AIR 1958 SC 731) in Supreme Court

    State of Gujarat v. Mirzapur Moti Kureshi Kassab Jamat (2005) 8 SCC 534

    It is boring to educate people here. I thought you all were post-school members!:lazy:
     
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  6. Hellfire

    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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  7. Flyboy!

    Flyboy! Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't think people have a big deal with what food you eat as Hinduism has nothing to do with veg or nonveg, except cow meat.
     
  8. Averageamerican

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    I usually have a Prime Rib dinner on Thursday nights for $12.95. Medium Rare.
     
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  9. Veeran

    Veeran Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    You are a good person, but you are talking without any real world awareness.
    The world is not lalala land.

    We never actually got ride of the criminal cabal that British created to oppress the nation.
    We got fooled.
    The only thing we achieved was to get ride of the British and some bankers themselves.
    You have heard of groups like Lutyens mafia and so on.
    They don't allow any criminal or people unaccepted laws to be changed.

    To get to a position to change laws, you need majority in both houses.
    How to get there??
    You need to get votes.
    How to get votes when the whole media is hell bent on misinformation??
    Politically aware people are very less in Bharat.

    So these things will go on to make people emotionally charged to get them to vote.

    Patriots in the subcontinent did try to reason and come into power the straight way that you mentioned.
    But their efforts all got killed or sabotaged.
    Now this is what is left to try.
    And it is working.

    It sounds good when you say things like "everyone has right to follow their own" and such.
    But what happens when it contradicts yours and your way of life??
    You will escape by saying that is what we have govt.
    In case of cows, they are one of the strong economic foundations that build our country.
    you may laugh at how cows can be economic foundation??
    Cows are integral to Indian society.
    They are a great machine.
    For little input it gives so much output.

    We cannot kill our foundations.
    If someone wants to live here, they have to integrate.
    Tolerance of others ideas is noble, but it should not be to the point that it sabotages your foundations.
    It is when everyone integrates or are atleast compatible to eachother in thoughts, that a civilizations survives.
    That is why there is no problem between Hindus despite having many Gods and many believes, even many branches (Bhuddism , Jaininsm, etc).

    But muslim ideology is an ideology which created a separate nation.
    You might think those Indian muslims are different or they chose to stay, but did you know 89% of them voted for the creation of Pakistan??
    So you can't be fool to think they are just following their believes and tolerating them is greatness and so on.
    They lost their right to be here.

    Now how do you get majority votes in a nation where foreign media has recolonized like during British times and is manipulating society and the people are distracted enough that they don't worry about national strategic affairs (you can't run away from this one, because Bharat is a democrasy and people have to be responsible).
    Do you have some master plan??
    It is easy to criticize someone and talk about morals and so on.
    It gives a feel good factor about yourself.
    But please don't think that is the world.
    Gandhi said all those muslims, they don't need to go.
    In the future there is going to be a civil war because of this blunder.
    Or do you think it is not going to happen??
    So do you think it was worth it??
    Gandhi through his stupid humanitarian act has become the causer of a future civil war.
    You should not empathize with your enemy.

    Untill Bharat becomes politicaly aware, these are the only sort of things that is going to get people to stand together, or hate a particular community, etc.
    We need BJP to have majority and the manipulating traitors to reduce.

    And if you think these people especially in RSS, etc are some nomads to doing things likes cow vigilantes, etc even after spending their whole life (some not even married) dedicating themselves to this nation, then how mistaken you can be. You think they enjoy being reduced to that??

    You have to project the nation to 20 years from now, see the threats that are coming, and we still have criminal govt. even today (BJP has not gained power yet to change things around, although they have won so many political contests). We need to be in power soon.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    I yawned at the crap you posted.

    The bold portion, read Khilafat Movement and Gandhi's role before you post your communalist bullshit. Take this as a warning. You want to post communalistic agenda ... head to other forum.

    As long as India is a State as legally defined, there will be adherence to it's laws, even in this forum.
     
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    Hellfire Devil's Advocate Staff Member MODERATOR

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    @nair

    This gentleman seems to be in a mood to loose his rights too
     
  12. kaku

    kaku Major Technical Analyst

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    Which change you want exactly?
     
  13. Flyboy!

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    Pls tell this to the dairy farmers who stick their hands up the uterus of the cow to artificially inseminate it. And when a cow stops giving milk, the same will be sold off illegally. Add to it the male calf that has no value to the farmer. This is the main reason why cows reach slaughter houses. My boss owns a gaushala and they are helpless in this situation because a farmer gets about 20k for an old cow for meat and skin.
     
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  14. kaku

    kaku Major Technical Analyst

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    Deoband changed alot in last 100 years.

    http://www.firstpost.com/india/the-...intolerance-entered-its-ideology-2638314.html
     
  15. Veeran

    Veeran Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Restoring defense industries.
    Bringing all unelected bodies under supervision of elected body.
    Uniform Civil Code.
    Repelling reservation in any field except in law courts.
    Overthrowing the pseudo-intellectual cabal and their influence in our education.
    Overthrowing the psuedo-intellectual cabal from universities.
    Increase access to land resources for everyone for productive work free of cost, put an end to the new zaminder like system with govt. being the zamindar.
    Restoring proper history.
    Overthrowing foreign media.
    Overthrowing foreign funded NGOs.
    Stop sabotaging activities of the Church missionaries.
    Put an end to foreign dumping of goods into the market.
    Create national rating agencies. Recognizing biased international rating bodies.
    Arrest all the pigs like Amartya Sen, Raghuram Rajan etc who caused damage to Indian economy and closed down SMEs by cutting off loans.
    Arrest all those bank heads who created so much NPAs.
    Deporting illegals.
    ...
    So many.
     
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