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"Muslim" Think Tank To PAF: Get UCAVs To Counter IAF Strength,

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  1. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    :lol::lol::lol: Laghed my A$$ off :lol:

    Livefist - Indian Defence & Aerospace: "Muslim" Think Tank To PAF: Get UCAVs To Counter IAF Strength, Quotes Koran To Support Suggestion

    Sunday, December 26, 2010"Muslim" Think Tank To PAF: Get UCAVs To Counter IAF Strength, Quotes Koran To Support Suggestion


    A Kuala Lumpur-based institute Grande Strategy (no kidding), which describes itself as a "Muslim think-tank providing strategy and analysis from an Islamic perspective" has published an online "strategy paper" today (by a defence analyst called Meinhaj Hussein) suggests UCAVs as a "possible solution in countering India's military aviation threat to Pakistan." The paper recommends that the PAF develop this proposed UCAV in the same way that it developed the JF-17. It even quotes from the Koran to pitch UCAVs as the assymetric answer to India's fifth generation push.

    After a rather droning (no pun intended) primer on the advantages/disadvantages of UCAVs, the paper goes on to recommend that UCAVs in Pakistani service are the only platforms that will be able to counter the "larger number of fifth generation fighters" India will have by 2025.


    Some excerpts:
    India will begin to field PAKFA fighter jets from Russia and may also develop her own from technology bought from the Russians. While the latter may be discounted as another employment opportunity for DRDO and related third-rate Indian bureaucracies, PAKFA and any specific design built for India by the Russians will provide a challenge that would be wholly new to the subcontinent: a 5th generation fighter. Further, it may not be farfetched to imagine a JSF purchase for the IAF, given the blossoming long-term partnership developing between India and the United States. While the credentials for the JSF are still unclear and the jury may be out on its air-to-air combat capabilities, the PAKFA is a clear threat. The PAKFA was designed to counter the F-22 in air combat. The threat is perhaps best defined as reasonable stealth, super cruise, high altitude and high speed. The PAKFA takes BVR combat to a new level that the airframe of the JF-17, by design, cannot compete with. BVR missiles launched from a high-high profile aids missile range and speed, and reduces the threat, range and effectiveness of Pakistani BVR launches in response. With AWACs and refuelers in the sky, such threats would be a menace, particularly with longer ranged BVR missiles from Russia. By 2025, India could field PAKFAs and perhaps even JSFs in the hundreds, drastically changing the military balance in the Subcontinent. Pakistan can either go bankrupt attempting to counter this new threat or she can become obsolete, back to a decade similar to the 1990s. Or Pakistan can develop UCAVs.


    The general approach has been to counter India's provocative procurements on a largely symmetric basis. Increasing number of manned fighter jets have been reciprocated by increases in Pakistan's inventory of manned jets. Purchase of AEW assets have been matched by an equivalent purchase. Nuclear tests were responded to with equivalent nuclear tests as were ballistic missile tests. However, this asymmetry is increasingly impractical because of differing size and economic development between the two countries.Meanwhile, India is now slated to acquire a large number of 5th generation planes in a 50-50 partnership with the Russians. Instead of attempting to break the bank and procure increasingly complex (and expensive) 5th generation fighters with the added exponential increase in maintenance and other operational costs, a solution may be to respond asymmetrically. Evidence of responding with positive asymmetry can perhaps be found in the Quran: The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better.

    Question: Why can't they repel our evil deeds with a good deed, i.e, shut down terrorism?
     
  2. Coltsfan

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    Pakistan figured it would wage a low cost proxy war against India forever, they did not envision having to face terrorism themselves and their troops fighting and killing "Islamic" militants.

    There are some really interesting comments posted for that article. Here is one interesting one, posted by Anonymous

    This should be moved to the humor section
     
  3. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    ^^^ the hair brained analyst who wrote this piece doesn't understand that you can't just take any plane and convert it into auto flight. I think he belives war can be played like a video game. Tech is nowhere close to that level and even the project to convert the LCA to UCAV is now an experimental one and will take at least a decade to be completed.
     
  4. Spartacus+

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    X-47 is very good for PAF.:thank_you2:
     
  5. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    yes Aliens are selling it to Pakistan :rofl: :rofl:
     
  6. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    You need an excellent satellite network for UCAVs.
     
  7. RoYaN

    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    Yes sure! Why not!
    Why not??? Interesting question........
    Let me find an answer....

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    Become a Couple of trillion dollar economy get loads of F-35
    then X-47 will do you good service...................


    In the mean time all I have to tell you is dream on...
    [​IMG]
     
  8. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Be a little civil here guys,
    He's not taunting us, calling us names, etc.
    Let him post his views without belittling him.
     
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  9. Guynextdoor

    Guynextdoor Lt. Colonel SENIOR MEMBER

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    I haven't understood the logic of many X 47s against India.

    a) most of the UCAVs (except stealth) in service today are cooked meat against Indian defences
    b) The cost of acquiring something like x 47 will be so high that you might as well plan for JSFs

    P.s- I agree with Naren. Let's keep it civil guys. No need to taunt.
     
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