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Myanmar in advanced negotiations to licence-build JF-17 fighter

Discussion in 'South Asia & SAARC' started by Agent_47, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Blue Marlin

    Blue Marlin 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    i dont care about the jf-17. but i admire its speedy induction and upgrades. no i dont hate the tejas, but i hate those who are pulling it down.
     
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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    LCA is here to stay. Production is in full swing now as well as its further development. We did some mistakes in past which resulted the awful delay in induction.
    BTW LCA is not just tejas. There are multiple versions of LCA
     
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    AbRaj Captain FULL MEMBER

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    BTw our rate of manufacturing Su- 30 mkis are much more than this. Which is way more advanced and almost twice the size of FC1. And we make it totally in-house , even engines from raw materials ( except for fan blades)
     
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    With a far higher level of localisation.

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    Koraput engine manufacturing Plant
    AL31
     
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    Yes every Airforce have their own procedure, but the idea of the question was, whether the JF-17 is officially cleared for all the functionality with its full capability, with or withour FOC or some other certification procedure. E.g Pakistani claims that JF-17 took part in Operation Jarb and pounded bombs over TTP, OK but did it poped LGB or did it only lobe free gravity bomb. P.S please mention the laser designation pod -- WMD7 or Arselan supplied one. Question is simple whether all the weapon package mentioned in its broucher in the public domain have been integrated with the JF-17 or the integration process still going on.

    Sorry both are different. FC-1 is the the export product of the China for the global customer and JF-17 is the designated tailored FC-1 for the PAF. Point was it was marketed by China, Subassemblies are Chinese, so China would like most if not all components to be from the Chinese OEMs thus it won't have Raa'd cruise missile weapon package (Developed by South African OEM from Torgus Cruise Missile, probably with Pakistani funded for R&D) till Pakistan allow its export.

    OK, probably because both the plane share the same Launcher, weapon store system, and MMR from a same OEM to cue the BVRAAM to the intended target.


    Really !!! Chinese didn't got the SU 27 rights to manufacture rather the pumped their money taking advantage of the collapse of the USSR into various CAR countries like Ukraine, Belarus, and bought the whole blueprint drawing plus tools, Jigs, dies and flying Air Data. They tapped hundreds of former Engineers, Scientists who became jobless to give China a leap forward in technological and industrial capability in the field of defense. From Ukraine they even shipped few uncompleted airframe. P.S Ukraine exported 30 Billion worth of weapons to China. Usually they started two program in parallel one indegenous effort to develop the system and another one to build them from the design acquired from the former CAR countries, and mostly indigenous was dumped or rejected by the latter. This give them a real boost to create the sub assemblies from Optronics, valves, actuators, sensors, alloy composition. Only thing they couldn't get hold on was the Radar and Engine because its tech. was deep burried inside Russia. Then they made a deal with the russia to buy SU-27SK in large number 200 units to be build by China from CKT and rest supplied by Russia in flyaway condition. For that Russia supplied AL-31 engine for 200 flankers build in China as per contract but What Chinese did was they diverted those engine to build their own plane now designated J-11 not from any DEAL or RIGHT rather by building airframe from the blue prints of the Flanker bought from the Ukraine, with some indigenous components. For the Radar and Avionics development, Chinese hired former Soviets engineers and Scientist for the indigenous effort. Russia got allerted and put a ban and jammed the information and tech. tranfer on allert and stop Engine supply. Thus the Chinese were forced to start the indegenous Engine development, in which they are still struggling. To push the engine development and fighter plan development the Chinese have planned to pump 100 Billion in next 15 years and in which substantial amount will be on Engine development. This is the reason for the delay for the SU-35 deal to finalized, which China was so desperate due to growing tension in the South China Sea, and only got when China paid the fine for the IPR voilation of SU-27.

    Now for the India which didn't got anything from the Rosoborn -- So how about Indian Missile Development from Agni to SLBM K4, K15, Arihant, Nirbhyay Cruise Missile.

    That was the funny part for the Lala Land dwelling lovers of Pakistani Fanboys.

    Offcourse Chinese in China, with weapon trial latter by PAF. Chinese are not going to share any Software with the Pakistani and are only limited with the Cockpit design due to more ascess to the SAAB gripen which they are trying to emulate for the cheaper customer.
     
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    Blackjay Developers Guild Developers -IT and R&D

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    One thing I cannot understand is the serviceability rate of mki.The main reason given for low serviceability rate is that the spare parts need to be procured from Russia.But if we are already producing everything from raw material how come spare parts (which should be the first thing to be produced in my humble opinion) still needs to be procured from abroad.

    The new agreement parrikar did to manufacture spare parts in India for increasing MKI serviceability to 75% would never have been needed if our localisation was actually this high.
     
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