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National Herald case: Court to hear matter against Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi on August 28

Discussion in 'National Politics' started by Anish, Aug 7, 2014.

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  1. Anish

    Anish Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    NEW DELHI: A Delhi court, which had issued summons against Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi and others, on Thursday deferred till August 28 hearing in the case filed by BJP leader Subramanian Swamy in the matter pertaining to acquisition of National Herald daily.

    Metropolitan magistrate Gomati Manocha postponed the matter after the counsel appearing for Sonia Gandhi and others informed the court that Delhi high court had on Wednesday stayed the criminal proceedings pending before the trial court till August 13.

    Senior advocate Ramesh Gupta, who appeared for Sonia, Rahul and others, told the court that summons have not been served on accused Sam Pitroda as he stays in the USA now.

    Swamy requested the court to hand over the summons issued against Pitroda to him so that he could serve it on him.

    The court permitted Swamy's contention and fixed the matter for hearing on August 28.

    In a reprieve for Sonia, Rahul and others, the high court had on Wednesday stayed till August 13 the criminal proceedings before the trial court against them.

    "Renotify the matters on August 13. Till that time, the impugned order dated June 26, 2014 of the trial court against the accused shall remain stayed," Justice V P Vaish had said.

    The stay had come as a relief to Sonia, Rahul and others including Congress treasurer Moti Lal Vora, general secretary Oscar Fernandes, Sam Pitroda and Suman Dubey who were asked to appear before the trial court on Thursday.


    National Herald case: Court to hear matter against Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi on August 28 - The Times of India

    Should mean that their scam fortunes are diverted to legal expenditures rather than eNREGA funding.
     
  2. Paliwal Warrior

    Paliwal Warrior Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    on Modis orders arun jaitley speaks to sonia

    assures her that the national herald case wud be taken care of, in return for congress support for Insurance bill in RS

    in retrun Sonia assures the RS support with some minor ammendments and the bill will be passed in RS

    so the parliament session will be extended, bill will be most probably be sent to select committee or put up in RS, amendments proposed and congress will help pass it

    why so much hurry for Insurance bill ?

    So that on his Sep visit the PM will have something to wave (read to show that he has delivered 1 thing) to the americans

    HAHAHA

    and people were dreaming of seeing sonia and rahul behind bars
     
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    A ncie prediction, but lets see how it goes..
     
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    not prediction but this are news reports
     
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    Any report of things in future are called predictions.
    The report in general terms now is analysis of what has happened (in past) so you can now have lok sabha election reports, the predictions were prior to that. Thus any reports of future are termed as predictions. Though you can see the satellite image of weather, and you know it will rain, it is still called weather prediction, though it is actually supported by satellite images.

    By the way, the man behind it is Subramaniyam Swami, and he is hell bent on pushing the congress to extinction. Even NaMo has predicted for Congress free india,
    The insurance bill is on strong basis and if they have joint session, the congress nos are negated.
     
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    the joint session cannot be called unless the bill is rejected twice in the RS

    so 1st they need to bring the bill in LS get it passed and then sent it to RS

    Rs can demand a discussion which can sretch 2 days, then it needs to be defeated

    then again i needs to be presented and discussed and passed in LS then resent to RS again discussion can be demanded before voting

    BJP does not have time for all this in the current session

    also it is not only congress which is againts it all paarties are opposing it .

    also all parties including the congree are not against the bill , neither against increasing the FDi limit to 49%

    i am not aware of the exact issue but it relates to portfolio investements being included in FDI
     
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    Only congress opposes good legislations like POTA and in this case Insurance bill.

    Congress should be dissolved as a political party for crimes against the nation and your employer Dentsu should be declared a terrorist organisation as it is passively assisting the ISI in its's attempted destruction of India

     
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    @Anish

    it is important to understand the reasons / points / issues on which anyone is opposing a particular thing

    The cong and all other parties are not opposing the insurance bill increasing the FDI limit to 49%

    they are opposed to allow portfolio investments (shortterm) in to be counted in 49% they want FDI (long term) funds only to be counted and allowed
     
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    By other parties you mean Muslim League and MIM which are jihadi pro ISIS CONgress's only all weather allies
     
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    even if congress don't support Insurance bill there are other ways in which the bill could be passed.

    the only thing congress can do is delay this bill for 3-4 months after that the bill is sure to pass with or without the support of congress
     
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    congress alone cannot stop the bill

    it requires the SP BSP BJD & Mamta to oppose the bill to stop it from being passed in RS

    The point is not who is opposing & who is passing

    the point is wether we want short term speculative money in Insurance sector or Long term money

    wether portfolio investments should be considered as FDI or not

    what is good for INDIA
    long term money as equity investments in crucial sector like Insurance sector, in Insurance cos in which millions of indians will put in thier lifes savings, (remember we dont have social security in india)

    or

    Short term speculative money like portfolio investments
     
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    that is what i said in earlier post that

    1st the bill needs to be passed by LS then presented in RS
    then again the process needs to be done
    and then only a joint session can be called to pass the bill

    but what is the point of not sending the bills to Select Committee or standing committee, if the opposition is asking for it ?

    almost every1 is agreed to raise limit to 49% the problem is in minor details

    if it can be sorted the bill can be passed
     
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    LOK SABHA TOTAL : - 543

    NDA : -336 Seats + possible support from AIADMK[37] & BJD[20]

    total support = 393

    RAJYA SABHA TOTAL : - 245(233+12) ( there are 9 independent & 3 vacant seats )

    NDA:56+ possible support AIADMK[11] & BJD[7]

    Total : - 75

    total both houses 543+245= 788.

    need to pass (if half then)= 788/2 =>394 (that they have )
    need to pass (if 2/3 majority then)= 788*2/3 => 525
    *(a bit confused about strength needed)

    NDA have 393+75 =468(add a few independent & minor parties which will increase this number)


    * By Wiki Baba information

    In India, if a bill has been rejected by any house of the parliament and more than six months have lapsed, the President may summon a joint session for passing the bill. The bill is passed by simple majority of a joint sitting. Since the lower house (Lok Sabha) has more than twice the members in upper house,[2][3] group commanding majority in lower house, the Government of India, can get such a bill passed even if it was rejected by the upper house.

    So far, only three bills (the Dowry Prohibition Act, 1961, the Banking Service Commission Repeal Bill, 1978 and the Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2002) have been passed at joint sessions. Though, the joint session have been called for four times, fourth time in 2008 for the Women Reservation bill, but it could not be passed.[1][4]
     
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    arey bhai

    i am in agreement with you on that one, where are we differing?

    but they need to present the bill in RS then let it get rejected and then wait for 6 months then call a joint session
     
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