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Naval aircraft foils piracy attempt

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  1. CONNAN

    CONNAN Major ELITE MEMBER

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    A Coast Guard Dornier maritime recce aircraft operating from the Southern Naval Command in Kochi on Friday morning thwarted a piracy attempt by two skiffs closing in on a merchant vessel about 300 nautical miles off Lakshadweep.

    The Dornier, which was on a routine surveillance sortie, sighted two white skiffs in the vicinity of the Bahamas-flagged container carrier CMA CGM Berdi. “The aircraft descended and passed over the skiffs and chased them away. A mother vessel (a hijacked Thai trawler) Prantalay was also sighted by the patrol aircraft in the area,â€￾ said the Navy in a media communiqué.

    For the last two months, the Navy and the Coast Guard have been maintaining vigil west of the Lakshadweep Islands for pirate boats. “This has been extremely effective and the area has been free of piracy incidents,â€￾ the Navy said.

    “Because of the timely arrival of the aircraft, the merchant vessel is now safe and heading for its next port of call in East Asia. The suspicious mother vessel Prantalay continues to be monitored by the Navy and the Coast Guard units. Anti-piracy patrols and surveillance over the East Arabian Sea will continue in order to assure merchant vessels using the international shipping lanes in the Arabian sea of their security,â€￾ the release added.

    The Hindu : News / National : Naval aircraft foils piracy attempt
     
  2. Capt.Popeye

    Capt.Popeye Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Great Job by the Indian CG. Must point out one small error in the report, the container ship's name is CMA-CGM VERDI; as in the composer Verdi.

    About the pirate mother vessel being a Thai trawler. The last time the IN blew a Hijacked Thai trawler being used as a pirate mother vessel, they were accused of attacking "innocent" fishing boats!
     
  3. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    Great job for ICG! I must say, it is the most under-estimated branch of armed forces especially in glamour context. Speaking of which, I am of the idea that the Dorniers and later NAL Saras aircrafts could be somehow modified for some basic firepower like say a 12.7 mm machine gun or a GSh-23 cannon operated with optronics to aim the gun properly from within the aircraft.

    You know, this chasing off was pretty risky job since if the pirates had RPGs, they could have taken down the Dornier easily and the pilots if surviving the hit could have been fish food.

    What do you think? Please note that this modification I am saying is ONLY for Coast Guard planes since they don't have any sort of reliable counter-attacking weapon.
     
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    flanker143 Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    rpg taking out a plane !!!
    I don't think its possible.....
     
  5. Tshering22

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    Why not? We are talking about low-flying large surface Dornier Do-228 here.. not a supersonic fighter jet. The Dorniers aren't exactly meant to "scare" pirates away but this particular incident was simply fortunate. Picture this:

    A Do-228 has spotted a pirate fast attack boat with pirates attempting to board a merchant vessel. It decides to lower its altitude and give a swoop-in style attempt to harrow the pirates. It is likely that the pirate boat would be armed with a 12.7 mm mounted machine gun and pirates carrying AKs and RPGs.

    If a pirate prepares himself for the swooping Do-228 which say is around 30 feet above the surface, he can easily fire a rocket into the nose of the plane causing instant death to both pilots of Do-228.

    Now if this same Dornier is armed with a cannon and optronics, the pilot can still be high and shoot the gunboat while maintaining a low airspeed. 30 mm rounds are pretty heavy and even if it doesn't hit the pirates, ti would cause numerous holes in their boat and cause it to sink or even make them retreat.
     
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    i second that.

    Let me explain how/why. The most RPG in use is RPG-7 Basalt; which has moderate accuracy against a moving target upto 300m and upto 500m against stationary targets. Now an aircraft (even Dornier) is a fast moving target (for the RPG holder). The RPG design assumes slow moving targets (on land) upto a speed of 40-60 Kmph. The Dornier cannot fly in the skies at that speed. Then another factor. the aspect of an airborne aircraft approaching the RPG bearer. Nearly every time the aspect will be unfavorable to the RPG. A stationary Dornier can be ripped apart by the RPG warhead.

    Now about arming the Dornier; arming it with cannons of 20-23 mm caliber is not feasible. The recoil/shock-load/vibration will be beyond the limits of the light airframe structure, about even 12.7mm MGs, i am skeptical. The only possibility seems to be 7.62 mm MGs in either wing-mounted or under-fuselage mounts.
     
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    I understand, but that is where modifications of these sort are studied and only then applied. Now 7.62 mm would be useless in a fly-and-gun attempt as compared to the 12.7 mm.
     
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    Not really. The gun platform (Dornier) is mobile an in a situation like this will be somewhat swooping out of the skies on to the skiffs/boats in the water. Even the range of the mounted guns will in fact be enhanced because of this platform. BTW, the Kiran Mk2 trainer is armed with 7.62 mm guns.

    Or may be arm the Dornier with RPGs?
     
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    Mother-ship of Somalian pirates sunk by Indian Navy, 15 held

    The Indian Navy has sunk a mother-ship of Somalian pirates and arrested 15 of them in the Arabian Sea after a gun-battle off the coast of Lakshadweep Islands.

    The Thailand-registered 'Prantalay' was intercepted by Navy's Fast Attack Craft (FAC) INS Canskaro yesterday and the two vessels exchanged fire after which the pirate vessel was engulfed in flames, a Navy spokesperson said here.

    The vessel was being used for piracy by Somalians at various locations in the Arabian Sea since April 2010 and posed a grave threat to merchant vessels passing through there.

    The pirates' mother-ship was under constant watch of the Navy since yesterday morning when a Coast Guard Dornier saved a merchant vessel from two skiffs of the Prantalay in the area.

    At about 1700 hours on Friday, Cankarso closed Prantalay and made all efforts to establish communication but the vessel didn't respond and continued to proceed westwards in the hope of escaping, officials said.

    The Navy craft also fired warning shots ahead of the Cankarso to compel her to stop but it opened fire at it. After the exchange of fire, "it was observed that a fire had broken out on Prantalay and personnel were also seen jumping overboard," they said.

    After the incident, the Cankarso apprehended 15 pirates and also rescued the 20-member original crew of the Thai trawler, which was hijacked by pirates in April this year.

    Cankarso was deployed in the area for anti-piracy patrol, was directed to intercept and investigate Prantalay. It was subsequently joined by INS Kalpeni and CGS Sankalp and they searching for any other fishermen or pirates in the area.
     
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