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New COAS aggressive posture, something coming?

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by BlackOpsIndia, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. BlackOpsIndia

    BlackOpsIndia Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    From past few days I have been reading new COAS Gen. Bipin Rawat aggressive statements at different platforms against Pakistan often containing pretty aggressive words like surgical strike again, cold start etc.

    Combine with this F-16, Mad Dog Mattis statements, Doval meeting Flynn and picking COAS breaking tradition, recent attacks in Afghanistan.

    Something cooking or just aggressive posturing? Maybe insiders can shed some light.

    @Hellfire @PARIKRAMA @Ankit Kumar 001 @Levina
     
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    PARIKRAMA Captain IDF NewBie

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    Post surgical strikes some development did take place

    1. LeT and Hizb joined hands for attacking J&K so attacks will be more deadly with local intelligence involved and better coordination between them.
    2. About 125+ terrorists infiltrated Post surgical strikes as per sources
    3. The attacks now has a element of going for soft targets and doing max damage with PR angle to get maximum mileage.. don't be surprised if hostage and video leaking of atrocity committed..
    4. 250+ terrorists waiting in about 11 new launch pads to cross over
    5. Almost 500kind of numbers doing training in terror camps. And will be pushed in due time..
    Thia proves we have still not able to breakdown their morale and support from state .. Hafiz Saeed talks about 30 casualties in akhnoor sector and says it's surgical strike..

    So it's clear the strikes we did were inadequate.. we need to go deeper, pound them.more often and make sure we also film and do a psy ops..

    The COAS has much better data, intelligence inputs and ground realities wit him.. his aggressive posture clearly means he knows what's coming and he is also clear what must be served back to the parties involved with what kind of treatment..

    PS- don't be surprised if this time pounding is done aerially as well and almost 100km+ inside the hostile zone.. the ingress would be deeper and it will be deadlier..
     
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    BlackOpsIndia Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Exactly why dont we make whole PoK and GB war zone? where we keep pounding them via drones or Su30? Initially, we will suffer few setbacks but after that it will be new normal. If Russia can capture Crimiea, Turkey can pound Syria at will, China can capture SCS we too can make that zone hostile and escalate the cost for Pakistan and make those jihadis underground, it will be more effective to make them run for life and lose morale.

    Are we waiting for a major terrorist attack for this to happen? or after US-China gets into direct conflict in SCS and world into more chaos we will go for it? It seems more like a question of when and not if.

    A drone warfare along with declaring that zone as no fly zone will make Pakistan scream, we too will suffer losses but if we do nothing China-Pak axis and some sense of security in normal Pakistani will ramp up and it wont be long some economic activity starts in Pakistan which is much much bigger threat.

    There are many problems in making this happen but I dont think we will ever get an ideal condition for it. If we keep delaying the enemy will only become stronger.
     
  4. The BrOkEn HeArT

    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    When terrorism factories producing more Jihadis day by day to attack you in your neighborhood and a big power is supporting it again in your neighborhood, you need to be aggressive all the time. Nothing is cooking though .
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Let us FIRST focus on Proper food and weapons for our soldiers
     
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    BlackOpsIndia Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Respect for your concerns but this not the thread for leftist ranting, please find the appropriate thread for your concerns. There is no shortage of food or good food in army, just because few corrupt BSF officers are making some soldiers suffers doesnt mean it is an operational issue.

    BSF is more like a police force and not army and we all know about corruption in police forces. Its good such videos come out and clean up few corrupt officers who think themselves above law or untouchables. IT revolution is making people accountable, be it politicians, bureaucrats, police or BSF, filth is everywhere and the sooner they understand they wont be able to get away with it the better it is.
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Also @Hellfire

    Today an ARMY soldier has posted a video about soldiers being made to
    polish BOOTS of officers

    Secondly I am not a leftist ; I vote for BJP and Modi

    But when we expect Soldiers to die for the country ; we also need to know their
    Grievances
     
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    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    The whole thing stinks, especially when BSF jawans have pakistanis in their friends list. Some of the videos are old. Don't take it at face value....
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    Along with Cross-Border Strikes and other Aggressive Diplomatic and Military Initiatives

    We should also focus on getting the basics right first....

    • Sealing our borders....
    • Protecting Civilians near our borders...
    • Upgrade our Troop Carriers, Base's.....
    • Give our Soldiers Better Vests, Helmets,Guns...
    • Better Intelligence.....

    There is no denying that after the Surgical Strikes...the Terrorists have stepped up their game and have killed DOZENS of our troops....We failed to protect them....

    So many of our Troops get killed in Kashmir.....
    RIP to them....

    Lets hope We are worthy of their Sacrifices....
     
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    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Nothing new, they would have killed them irrespective of the Surgical strike. Army increased the cost of doing such operations...
     
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    stephen cohen Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    That is what the enemy is expected to do ; utilise our weaknesses

    Dont you think that ISI is seeing these videos

    First BSF ; Then CRPF ; then SSB and Now even an Army soldier

    I dont know what the Hell we are talking about -- Two Front war and all those
    Shiny toys like Rafales ; when we have such dis satisfaction in the ranks
     
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    Darth Marr Captain FULL MEMBER

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    Wait for the investigation to come out, something smells wrong here. I find the timing all too convenient.. I just don't trust these videos...
     
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    BlackOpsIndia Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    We got 26 lakh armed forces, its too big force for to make it 100% clean. There are few scums who dont recognize the respect of nation and instead abuse power which is normal human tendency. There are proper mechanisms in place to address these grievances and social media is definitely not the place for it as those videos are used more for propaganda and TRP and not for grievance redressal.

    It doesnt matter whom you vote, the moment you start food, hunger and poverty on any army operations thread you are using lefty arguments. Be practical, be pragmatic, always remember its human who work in army not gods and there will be mistakes, problems.
     
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    Ripcord322 Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    If that was so easy...we would have done that already....
    we know that this administration has been more pro-active that the previous ones....
    But even they are not doing this....

    There is a difference between the likes of China, Russia and India....
    The Chinese have their Money there.....
    The CPEC passes through PoK...The Chinese won't sit still if we start Pounding PoK

    The Chinese won't even let us extradict Criminals or Tame Terrorists like Masood Azhar, (Despte Rest of The world Being on our side....) on the behest of Pakistan.....Do you think they will let us Bomb PoK.....
    Seriously.............
     
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    The BrOkEn HeArT 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    And it is just bcz of modi govt that everybody now believe modi will listen them for sure. Everybody now believe more in Govt except some morons.
     
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