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Nitish Kumar takes on Narendra Modi; hints at anti-Congress,non-BJP alliance in 2014

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  1. DaRk KnIght

    DaRk KnIght Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    NEW DELHI: Using the platform of a massive show of strength in Delhi through his Adhikar rally demanding special status for his state, Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar on Sunday signalled that he would continue in NDA on his own terms and possibly make moves to forge an anti-Congress, non-BJP alliance even as he challenged NarendraModi's claim of being the best leader to deliver development. It was also an assertion of his own position in the 2014 polls where, as a swing player, he could rearrange the political chessboard.

    Addressing the rally, Kumar said no government could be formed at the Centre without the help of backward states such as Bihar, West Bengal and Odisha. The absence of any reference to NDA during the address was conspicuous, suggesting that he was ready to bargain in the 2014 polls on the basis of his demand for special status to Bihar.

    "We are happy that UPA government has agreed in-principle to grant our demand. But now we want it to be implemented soon. Do it now or it will be inevitable after 2014 elections. Only he who holds the hands of backward states (Bihar, Odisha and West Bengal) will sit in Delhi," Kumar said, his statement reflecting a desire for a degree of flexibility which is not available to a committed member of a coalition.

    Kumar's statements came in the backdrop of Modi's likely projection as BJP's prime ministerial candidate after the Karnataka assembly elections and equally strong signs that Kumar would walk out of NDA in such a scenario. Kumar, who has earlier expressed reservations about Modi in no uncertain terms, also used the occasion to challenge the Gujarat CM's model of development.

    "We will leave everyone behind and move ahead with development. And we will present a model before the world. These days development model is being discussed. We stand for inclusive growth. This model is what takes along everyone together. This is the real development model of India. Be it Hindu, Muslim, backward caste, dalits, women or men, everyone should develop together," Kumar said in a clear reference to Modi's reluctance to take special measures for minorities and Gujarat's poor record on human development indices.

    The comments came a day after Modi showcased his growth story in front of a fawning, elite audience in Delhi.

    Interestingly, the rally saw leader after leader from JD(U) calling Kumar 'Vikas purush' (development man) - a moniker appropriated by Modi in the recent past. The Bihar CM too went beyond his state, talking about how India could overtake China in development through inclusive growth and that his idea of development was not limited to urban areas.

    Even at the rally, subtle signals were given about inclusion and secularism with several Muslim supporters lined up in the front row, a prayer sung in Urdu and a placard thanking Bihar government for providing land to Aligarh Muslim University that Kumar did not forget to mention.

    Kumar used the rally to also keep the option of a non-Congress, non-BJP alternative open for the general elections. Broadly hinting at a coalition of backward states, he said, "This is not a fight for Bihar but for all backward states. When all backward classes join hands with Biharis, who will rule Delhi (you can imagine)." JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari, speaking on the sidelines of the rally, only added to the speculation saying, "Backward states elect 291 MPs. Their demands can't be neglected."

    The desire to forge a front of backward states (with West Bengal and Odisha) goes beyond the similarities of economic situation and takes into account a shared feeling of opposition to the Congress and inability to go with the BJP given the minority vote constituency in all these states (West Bengal has 30% minority votes). As a secular satrap, Kumar hopes to attract such forces.

    The massive rally also underlined Kumar's success in grafting a pan-Bihar platform that cuts through the state's notorious caste divisions. Bihar's backwardness and demand for special status is an age old issue and has been revived by Kumar for precisely this purpose -- an imperative for a leader coming from a numerically weak caste as against the martial Yadavs, his rival Lalu Prasad's core constituency. Although JD(U) sources said the rally was not for any partisan purpose, it reassures Kumar of a constituency on the development plank.

    JD(U) leader Sanjay Jha said, "The success of the rally shows that the Centre can ignore Bihar's demand at its own peril. This is not a political move but a call for Bihar's growth. Political subtext should not be read into this."

    The confidence in such statements was only a reflection of how successful the rally had turned out to be. By the time Kumar arrived, Ramlila Maidan, one of the biggest grounds in Delhi where several political rallies including JP movement's mammoth rally in 1975 and Anna Hazare's anti-corruption crusade in 2011 have been held, was packed to the rafters with people climbing on to trees and craning their necks to catch a glimpse of their leader. Even conservative estimates put the crowd at over 50,000 although JD(U) claimed it to be over 1 lakh.

    Nitish Kumar takes on Narendra Modi; hints at anti-Congress, non-BJP alliance in 2014 - The Times of India
     
  2. sam2012

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    Re: Nitish Kumar takes on Narendra Modi; hints at anti-Congress,non-BJP alliance in 2

    He is just jelous of Modi , hence he takes out his frustration in public
    Bihar is a nothing in comparizon to Gujarat , even he knows that by heart that is what irks him :hitwall: inspite of being hit by Godhra riot strom Modi has stood tall this is the reason why congress & Nitish are irked :blah:
     
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    Re: Nitish Kumar takes on Narendra Modi; hints at anti-Congress,non-BJP alliance in 2

    It seems the reporter was "asked to draw" these conclusions.
     
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    Re: Nitish Kumar takes on Narendra Modi; hints at anti-Congress,non-BJP alliance in 2

    Lets be honest, Nitish is a good leader, but he aspires to be the Prime Minister.
    But he does not have the mass support that is needed for the same

    So far, the need for BJP and Nitish is mutual, but Nitish now seems to be flirting with Congress also which makes BJP a bit nervous,
    Both BJP and Nitish want in a way to break the alliance but show that they wanted to keep the alliance , but it might be Nitish who blinked first.
    BJP is clear in its view, whoever is selected during the leadership meeting as prime minsterial candidate, they would go with him. And Modi has good backing in BJP cadres and also among the people, his perception is excellent, Nitish on the other hand is focusing on his votebank of Lower caste and Muslims (and he talks of being secular)

    there was a funny an interesting thing that Modi said when asked about security for minorities, he said why give security to minorities, give security to everyone 100% so no one can complaint.

    Lets be honest, we are fractured nation because our leaders are happy to do so, we have a pledge in our books saying "India is my country all indians are my brothers and sisters, and yet journalist themselves when they ask "what about security for minorities" that shows the sorry state of mindset of Journalists also.

    Anyway there cannot be 3rd front in power, as such a government will also have a lot of compromises and none of the scams are ever going to be solved. For 3rd front to come in power, they have to have support of Congress of BJP and if its Anti congress and anti BJP alliance, I do not see it happening. but on other hand Mamata Banerjee does not dislike BJP, she has her views and she will go by them.
     
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    She is psychotic, therefore unpredictable.
     
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    Bihar has yet to trvel many, tough miles before it comes to the present level of Gujarat. Mean time Gujarat will stand still.

    So called Bihar Model is based on caste and religious differences.

    Right now Nitish is working in a developement vacum. So every % looks astounding.

    Take example. Gujarat has already one of the best roads. Bihar has worst roads, or no pucca roads. So build 500 km of roads, and you show imprtessive %age. Even whole of Patna does not get 24x7 electricity at 230 volts. Assure it and it is an ACHIEVEMENT. A new factory in Bihar ia MEGA news, but a routine affair in Gujarat.

    Lols. Bihar farmers demanding electricity wre fired upon, 11 died. No such agitations in Gujarat!! Riots happen, dacoity happen Bihar, not in Gujarat. Bihar sends out poor to work Gujarat accepts those poor Biharis.

    Nitish has to show something before show casing like Modi.
     
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    these are drawn conclusions from a part of Media who will do all to facture NDA.... nothing else.. if you guys have listened the speech of NAMO you will remember that on border check post statement he even critiseid MP which is a BJP lead state... so what is wrong with Nitish in not including NDA in his speech.

    Dear friends our media is full of shit people who just want to see and create controversies everywhere.. its biggest irony that if we have more then one suitable candidate for a post... we don't appreciate competition and system which is giving so many good people so we don't lack options.. they will call it conflict and search for hidden story.

    these Rally was for backword states and called by JDU ..... hope our media don't expect to hear cricket commentary in a match of hockey.... then why they want to listen name of NDA when its a rally which is totally called and organized by JDU....

    A long time back Nitish has stated that people who are trying to put his name for PM are not his friends( clears a lot of picture)....

    it was a rally with a specific thing to discuss and what Nitish has said is right you can't make a govt. in central without winning and gaining support in backword states. media persons are trying to compare and put Modi model and Nitish Model against each other but IMO its about a good alliance who have so many type of growth models and running them successfully in various parts of nations rather then various types of scams run by UPA in whole nation.

    Nitish stays in allaince or not is not the issue... the issue is is he had a vision for doing the job which people gave him... and yes he had that which IMO is all that people of Bihar needed right now( a state who made Alexander tremble and fearful in past is left as good for nothing by its politicians and media is not trying to help them but making lines and divide... its a shameful behavior of them.

    NAMO and Nitish both talked about growth for all without any discrimination and this is what India needed... considering India as a nation and its people as one... I don't know if these 2 will be together in central but they had shown that they are Indian first and for this I respect them even if they go in different camps during election
     
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    All i want to say to Mr nitish kumar is,if he wants to be a part of a reforming india then he should must leave riot things first and avoid dirty politics for the muslim votes of his state.when the muslims of india will really benefitted by his policies as muslims of gujrat then they will not talk about that issue.There were communal riots post independence in india but only gujrat riot is being kept alive.So plz stop using the word SECULAR if you don't understand the true meaning of it because it is one of your fundamental duty to improve the harmony between peoples of different sects.The problem in this country is if somebody wants to do something fruitful there are a lot of glitches for him and by breaking NDA allaince Mr kumar is doing the same.So i advice him to go for the motto INDIA FIRST and understand it feel it then the muslims of bihar will also feel it teach them for indifference on the basis of community and tell them to follow the motto.
     
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    +1
     
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    And these people from other states like Bihar who come to Gujarat for employment are counted as "people under poverty line"
     
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    Just one question for anyone to answer.
    The unemployed people from Bihar who go to Gujarat, do only HINDUS AND NON-MUSLIMS go to Gujarat for employment?
     
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    Even people from Jharkhand do not go for employment to Bihar so much so that even birds fly inverted over Bihar as they dont give a shit to that state. India TV may be a really funny channel but it ran an SMS poll from all over India statewise and even within Bihar, Nitish polled 31% while NAMO polled 69% votes as most preferred to be the PM of India.
     
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    I fully agree with you on this point as this explains a very large growth in the middle class in Gujrat while the people below povertyline may not have had such reduction in numbers. This explains that the floating workforce and people from other parts of India are adding to the poverty of Gujrat. The Locals will always get preference in high pay jobs and so there has been an increase in middle class within Gujrat.
     
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    Also the migrant workers usually go for skilled, semi-skilled or unskilled jobs and most of the technology jobs in gujarat go to locals or to people selected by the management based on skills.

    Even the labour force defines the level of earning
    Skilled always earns better than semi-skilled who earn better than unskilled, and it is the unskilled labour who add to the below poverty line numbers
     
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    You are bangon once again. It is mostly the unskilled which migrates for jobs. The semi skilled and skilled get jobs within their own state. As can be seen from the number of rikshapullers and auto ricksha drivers in delhi and Mumbai or anyother state.
     
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