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No Hindus will be left in Bangladesh after 30 years: researcher

Discussion in 'International Relations' started by Wolfpack, Nov 21, 2016.

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SIndia should declare itself as Hindu nation?

Poll closed Dec 12, 2016.
  1. Yes,Since Bharat is the only Homeland of Hindus in the world.

    58.3%
  2. NO,Because we are Secular and we follow Gandhi and Nehru

    25.0%
  3. Why do Hindus have itch to be Secular?when no one around you is not.

    16.7%
  4. No Comment

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Islam has 55 Nations,Christianity has 110 nations,why should Hindus have one Hindu nation?

    25.0%
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  1. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    No Hindus will be left in Bangladesh after 30 years: researcher

    From his 30-year-long research, Barkat found that the exodus mostly took place during military governments after independence.
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    Before the Liberation War, the daily rate of migration was 705 while it was 512 during 1971-1981 and 438 during 1981-1991. (Photo: ANI)

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    : Eminent Bangladeshi economist and researcher Dr Abul Barkat has estimated that there will be no Hindus left in the country after three decades.

    "The rate of exodus over the past 49 years points to that direction," the Dhaka University teacher said in his book "Political economy of reforming agriculture-land-water bodies in Bangladesh" published yesterday.


    He said that from 1964 to 2013, around 11.3 million Hindus left Bangladesh due to religious persecution and discrimination, which means on an average 632 Hindus left the country each day and 230,612 annually, reports the Dhaka Tribune.
    From his 30-year-long research, Barkat found that the exodus mostly took place during military governments after independence.

    Before the Liberation War, the daily rate of migration was 705 while it was 512 during 1971-1981 and 438 during 1981-1991. The number increased to 767 persons each day during 1991-2001 while around 774 persons left the country during 2001-2012, the book says.

    Another Professor Ajoy Roy said the government grabbed the properties of the Hindus during the Pakistan regime describing them as enemy property and the same properties were taken by the government after independence as vested property.

    According to the book, these two measures made 60 percent of the Hindus landless.

    Retired Justice Kazi Ebadul Haque said the minorities and the poor were deprived of their land rights adding that the land management system should be reformed.

    Dhaka University Professor Farid Uddin Ahmed said that the government has to ensure that the indigenous people would not be affected or harmed.

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/worl...-in-bangladesh-after-30-years-researcher.html
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    While here The Muslim population increased by almost 200% in past 70 years.In some places Hindus are the minority. Secularism and Appeasement is a bane for Hindus.It is time Bharat should be declared as Homeland of Hindus,when every neighboring country of ours has a state religion,why does only Bharat has the itch to declare itself Secular?Hindus seem to have a suicidal death wish after all that Gandhian Nonsense being fed to them.
     
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    Interesting. I have family still in Bangladesh, but even they are planning to emigrate to India as soon as possible. Which is a shame because Bangladesh is a pretty tolerant place, unlike Pakistan, for religious minorities. Nevertheless, any non-Muslim who wants to emigrate to India should be allowed to do so without any hindrance.

    I would like to argue that India was never secular in the first place. Not how I define it, anyhow. Living in the US for most of my life, my definition of secularism is that government has no say in religious matters of church, temple, or mosque. No state religion, etc. India, on the other hand, defines secularism differently: it's goal is to treat all religions equally even if it contradicts principles of democracy and equality. This is why Muslims are allowed their own personal law boards. We don't need to go beyond the issue of triple talaq to figure out how anti-democratic and anti-secular this is. Until recently, India was subsidizing hajj for Muslims. Is this secularism?
     
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    Lion of Rajputana Lieutenant FULL MEMBER

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    I don't see any need to officially declare India as a "Hindu" nation or to declare an official religion. For official purposes, India should continue as a Secular, Democratic Republic.

    However, in practice, India should absolutely be THE global safe haven and sanctuary for persecuted Hindus (and Sikhs as well) around the globe, and especially so within its neighborhood which has countries like Pakistan where Hindus and Sikhs are not safe. India should do everything in its power to bring these Hindus and Sikhs to India, and should work out a mechanism for granting them visas on arrival + a fast tracked process for citizenship as soon as they arrive.

    If Hindus, and even Sikhs, are facing trouble anywhere in the world, it is India's responsibility to raise these concerns and help them however and whenever it can.

    And one last note, the true meaning of secularism is the SEPARATION of church and state, and EQUAL treatment of all religious groups. It doesn't mean vote bank politics or the simultaneous appeasement of select minorities in the name of secularism while reverse discriminating against the majority. There is no room for Triple Talaq or Religious Law Boards, there can only be one law of the land, which applies equally to anyone and everyone. Congressi "Secularism" is not real secularism, and India must put an end to that.
     
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    Religion is to do with the individual and his/her god. Democracy is to do with the individual and the Nation. Hence all individuals, irrespective of their religion, the constitutional civil law under democracy takes precedence over any religious law, in the interest of conflict resolution. If it is a foreign religion, those civil law governing component needs to be taken out of it in order for it to fit into any democratic system of the world.
     
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    India's future lies in being a Secular Nation. We should make special effort not to allow pseudo seularism or communalism. Both are bad for us. We can not afford another partition of our nation on religious grounds.

    We should first make sure that population ratio of our nation remains same. India will maintain its secular fabric only till Hindus are in majority. A ny demographic change will negatively affect us.
     
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    Bangldesh is not a tolerant place anymore,ISIS,AL-Qaeda are firmly established there now,the recent murders of Hindus and Atheists and the riots that took place where Hindu temples were vandalized and houses of hindus looted shows,that Hindus have no choice but to migrate to India.Wherever and whenever,Islam becomes majority,the Minority always is persecuted,while Islam in minority cries for secularism and rights,they bide their time until they can become a demographic majority.This experiment is repeated all over the world for past 1400 years.

    Secularism in Indian context is oxymoron,We are not a Abrahamic monotheist religion,where church reigns supreme and has say in all matters,there was never any Religious interference by religious leaders because Sanatana Dharma has many sects and paths in hindu ruled states.So how is Secularism applied here? It can be applied in the european context of church and state.
    India follows appeasement of Minorities courtesy of Nehru family,it is not Secularism.

    This video will explain in detail.
     
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    Why should we not officially declare India as Hindu nation?Why is this itch to remain secular only with hindus?while Muslims when they become majority overwhelmingly want a Islamic state.why do Hindus have this Suicidal tendency to do what others wont do and indulge in self mutilation to place Minorities?

    If you won't change the name and declare yourself as hindu nation,who will believe you in the first place,when you claim to be secular you are nothing but another country.Israel has a state religion and therefore everyone will believe it is the homeland of jews.
    All secular countries in west have a defining narrative they are white christian ,protestant ,catholic or orthox christian,secularism is just a cover up to stop church from meddling in state affairs, where did our religious leaders in India ever interfere in state affairs in our History,how do we compare apples(European context of Secularism) to Oranges(India where its said "Ekam Sat bahuda vipranthi")
     
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    Indias future lies in being Hindu nation not Secular nation.The moment we talk about declaring as Hindu nation,the minorities talk of partition,why is it that so? Did we already not give them two countries in partition?If anyone asks for further partition on religius grounds,that demand will be put down forcefully,they have other countries to migrate to if they want their way of life to happen. There is a demand for sharia law in states of India where Muslim are majority.
    Why should Hindus be naive and capitulate to minority demands to remain Secular,when these religions have 55 Islamic nations and 110 Christian nations around the world and Hindus cannot even have one Hindu nation,what hypocrisy?
     
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    We have been from before the Abramanics came and we will be after them too.
     
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    That is what you think,The other religions never respect you for what you are,you will always remain a Infidel or a heathen pagan to them.
    Only you are a fool to think everyone is equal because you are looking at the world through Sanatana Dharma lens,not the other way around.Wake up! and see the world through Abrahamic lens then you will understand what i mean.
     
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    Did you not read my comment? In practical terms India should be a Hindu nation in the sense that it is a permanent, global home and safe refuge for Hindus around the world. But there's simply no need to declare a state religion, especially when we're 75-80% of the population anyways.
     
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    That is a mistake to think,you will outlast them.We have lost 75% of our land since the advent of Invasions from Afghanistan,Pakistan,Burma,Indonesia, etc. which were all hindu lands.

    It is foolhardy to think, you don't face a threat,this is the problem with Hindus who believed that British rule would end after 200 years because every Invaders rule ended after 100 years,they believed in such fairytale superstitions not based on hard facts of the world.
    A simple example Pakistan keeps attacking everyday and you keep defending,even when you won all wars against them,you still gave them back their land without asking for any compensation? which naive and idiotic country does that except India.
    The Pakistanis know that you will fall for their honey coated words and situation will be back to normal and they will attack again and again,while you keep defending again and again and lose your people.
    The attackers has the opportunity to decide when and where to attacks,the defender does not have that luxury.
    If you keep on defending ultimately one day your defence will break,that is the instance the enemy will sweep over you and make you their slaves.
    To stop such attacks,the fight should be taken deep into the heart of the enemy.Only then will they ever stop attacking you once they know the price to pay is high.
     
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    You want it to remain Hindu nation in practical terms,but don't want to declare it as a Hindu nation?why this charade? whom are you trying to impress the world?The world only respects the strongest not Secular or weak.

    That population you quote is decreasing day by day,In some states Hindus are minority now,which was not the case 50 years ago.200% POPULATION boom in Muslims in 70 years is a cause for concern in India while the Hindus in Pakistan and bangladesh are reduced to 1=3% in 70 years. Why do we give them free hand to call themselves Islamic nations,but we want to remain Secular?
    That too me is Insanity Suicidal and inferiority complex thought which Hindus have.Such thoughts should be discarded.
     
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    What I say is from the perspective of a foreign citizen who knows how countries throughout the world are viewed, and why, for example, India is viewed so positively in America nowadays. You can become a Hindu Israel if you want in terms of declaring state religion etc, but there's minimal gain there and more downside than positives. That's why even a BJP Gvt wont ever declare India a Hindu nation, there's nothing big to gain from it, and we have little to fear.

    What's more important is to tackle Islamic radicalism, practices like triple talaq and pass UCC in the nation. To take it a step further, if India strengthens and improves law enforcement and law & order in the land, it will be much better served, and Muslims won't be able to pose any sort of threat even with their population growth.
     
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    You are more concerned with impressing your Neighbors and the world,while failing to set your home straight and rectify its mistakes.When your home is set and strong,naturally every one will respect you and view you favorably irrespective of what religion your country is,Secular,Religious they don't care as long as you are strong and won't depend on others, Those whose own house is not in order but want to impress others superficially will always fail.
    Tell me "Do you dress what you like most or do you dress to impress others even though you hate that dress"?

    Why is there minimal gain in declaring India as Hindu state? The gains are huge,Muslims won't be able to ask for Separate laws then as everyone will be governed under Hindu laws and treated equally,Good luck getting Muslims to agree to UCC you have fed and pampered them for 70 years with Separate laws,why would they let go of their domination now?
    It also sends a message to world that Hindus have a permanent homeland in India and shows how far you willing to go to for protecting Hindus. When you cant even change your name to Hindu nation, out of Inferiority complex of what others around the world might think about you,it does not give confidence to any Hindu living around the world to migrate to India,to him/her we would just be another Secular country,not a safe haven for Hindus,Sikhs and other Sanatana Dharma followers.
    What impression does that give to others around world,when you talk big but fall flat on action.Can't even change a name but talk big is the Scenario.
     
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