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Noida: Mob ransacks Mahagun Moderne society after maid 'beaten up' and 'held hostage'

Discussion in 'Internal Affairs' started by Wolfpack, Jul 13, 2017.

  1. An Indian

    An Indian 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    This needs to happen to some of the Lutyens & JNU folks. Especially some of their stars... Sorry, but that's the only way they are going to change their tune.
     
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  2. PARIKRAMA

    PARIKRAMA Angel or Devil? Staff Member ADMINISTRATOR

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    First of all the culture of domestic help needs to be curtailed... We all should be capable enough to do our own house works..

    Our forefathers did not use outsiders to keep our home in clean and tidy conditions. In case you do want a domestic help, we should use it only when there is a small child in house which needs mothers attention or old folks who need a house maid to clean and keep the house in order.

    Again for that maid should be through an agency and should be compensated also properly for the work.

    Unfortunately a lot of Bangladeshi folks illegally come to WB and then from WB migrate to all parts of the country for two things. Husbands tend to work for construction worker at sites and women are doing house hold maid work at minimum wages.

    The tendency of ppl to use them for cheap labour cost si what leads to this situation. Look at nowadays percentage of obese ppl . We have become fully dependent on maids to make food to clean up our house and thus we are depending upon illegal migrants for getting these luxuries at minimum cost.

    The country needs to wake up and learn that you need to do your own work. And a domestic help is needed for special circumstances not for your regular normal life . Incase you want a domestic help, pls look at ppl from India only.

    Stop trusting ppl who will say we are Bengali , we come from a place near Kolkata, malda, or any interior place from WB. 99.99% of these ppl are illegal BD who over time gets all documents including aadhar card bcz of stupid NGOs.

    And worst part is the fact that these are the easy target for any radicalized activity owing to very crude and neanderthal belief in their religion and religious activities. Polygamy, triple Talak, fake conversion to Hinduism and having a big layer of kumkum in forehead to hide their true origins does not change the fact that deep inside they different mindsets and opinions.

    Of course you will find good ppl too among them. But we as a country should stop this nonsense once and for all.

    My state Assam already lost a sizeable chunk of land and population to illegal migration and accommodation by political parties for vote bank. Today its just a spark away from communal tensions and almost all such migrants are fully radicalised.

    India will get into more troubles if it does nt see and change its policies...
     
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  3. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    @PARIKRAMA, we had joint family system which allowed better care of children and a more composite growth of our culture, now most families are small families and joint family system is confined to rural India only. In my own house, my mother never allowed any maid to cook for us. The food was always prepared by either my mother or my wife or by my Bhabhis. Now a maid servant is a must as most couples are employed and they can't handle everything. But even more surprising is that same Indian couples who can't live without a maid in India, manage everything including respective jobs when they go to foreign shores. Surely we need to have a relook at it all.
     
  4. Wolfpack

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    Dailyo is reporting this as a 'Class struggle' Citing, figures of Domestic maids abused to make it look like,this was a spontaneous eruption akin to revolution of peasants against the Burgeois,These bloody communists! This is how they were covering up all crimes against Hindus by Muslims calling it 'Class Struggle'
    http://www.dailyo.in/variety/domest...iolence-abuse-class-divide/story/1/18326.html
     
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    Why a posh society in Noida saw domestic workers revolt
    How long are we supposed to ignore this?
    A working class uprising in a posh Noida residential society is not day-to-day regularity, but it is nonetheless a serious affair. On July 12, around 7am, the residents of a Mahagun Moderne, housing society in Noida’s Sector 78, woke up to almost riot-like conditions.

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    A posh society in Noida sec 78, where maids and other workers revolted today and ended up with stone pelting

    10:14 AM - 12 Jul 2017 · New Delhi, India



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    Almost a class war it looks like

    10:18 AM - 12 Jul 2017



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    Kaam wale vs maalik, everyone is a stonepelter

    10:22 AM - 12 Jul 2017




    A mob, mostly comprising domestic helps and their friends and family, had gathered around the society and tried to enter the premises. In fact, they also resorted to stone-pelting. A female domestic help at one of the houses in the society had allegedly been beaten up by one of the residents and this not-so-peaceful protest had risen up because of that. The mob had also blocked the Dadri-Surajpur-Chhalera road at Barola.

    The police were quick to arrive and handle the situation. “Most of the protesters are domestic helps, who are angry that a maid has been allegedly beaten up. We are trying to contain the protest,” superintendent of police Arun Kumar Singh told Hindustan Times. The residents, however, disagree. According to them, the domestic help in question, was caught stealing (Rs 17,000) from one of the apartments and was handed over to police, and the protest was a response to that.

    In fact, according to a report in The GenX Times, the house owner claims to have CCTV footage of the domestic worker stealing cash from the house.

    The allegations of theft may be true, but there is little reason to doubt the allegations of violence by the house owner towards the domestic help as well. The trend of abusing domestic help in India is frightening. A largely unorganised sector, domestic helps have nowhere to go when they are abused by their employers.

    As stated in response to a question tabled in the upper house of Parliament in 2014, a study was published by the Ministry of Women and Child Development that tracked reports of violence against domestic helps between 2010 and 2012. Across India, in all states and union territories, there were 3,564 cases of alleged violence against domestic workers reported in 2012, 3,517 in 2011 and 3,422 in 2010.

    According to a report presented by the National Domestic Workers' Movement, “Domestic workers are highly exploited and denied just wages and humane working conditions. They are paid well below the minimum wages for unskilled or semi-skilled workers. The vast majority of live-in domestic workers work a minimum of 15 hours a day, seven days a week.”

    “Wage, leave facilities, medical benefits, and rest time are at the employer’s mercy. Moreover, they are often victims of suspicion. If anything is missing in the house, they are the first ones to be accused with threats, physical violence, police interrogation, conviction, and even dismissal,” added the report.

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    A draft National Policy for Domestic workers is under consideration of the government. The aim of the policy is to empower domestic workers with more rights and the chance to unionise. Through this effort, domestic workers will have the right to register as workers with the State Labour Department.

    Such registration will facilitate their access to rights and benefits accruing to them as workers. They will also have the right to form their own associations and trade unions. Additionally, they will receive the right to have minimum wages, access to social security and protection from abuse, harassment, violence.

    But is that enough?

    Class and caste divide in India plays a big role in the oppression of the poor. As was rightly stated in a 2015 report in Rediff, “Indians are amongst the most "servant-dependent" people in the world. From getting our dishes washed to our toilets cleaned, our children minded to our dogs walked, from being driven to work to having our lunch boxes opened and our clothes ironed, our need for domestic servants is total, at least 16x7, leaving out the sleeping hours.”

    Tripti Lahiri, the author of Maid in India: Stories of Inequality and Opportunity Inside Our Home, talking about the abuse of domestic workers in India says, “Many of them were teachers or nurses or a profession that involved an element of care, but they behaved very differently with their maids. The behaviour is always defended in some way. It makes for a very toxic relationship between the employer and their maids.”

    Stone-pelting, gheraos, revolt and consequent swift action by the police. This incident form Noida will soon be forgotten. A lot of people may just brush it off as because the domestic worker in question had allegedly robbed the house owner. But what lies beneath this incident is the way an entire section of people are mistreated throughout the country.

    How long are we supposed to ignore this?

    Also read: What Irrfan Khan's Hindi Medium teaches us about privilege and class divide

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    Look at the spin these Communist pigs are trying to give, calling it 'Class struggle' and revolt of Domestic workers against Bourgeois.
    When riots in Bengal happened,these communists called it class struggle against Wealthy Hindu Landlords and Muslim peasants ,they destroyed West Bengal,now they are out to destroy rest of Country.
     
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  6. vstol jockey

    vstol jockey Colonel MILITARY STRATEGIST

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    daily wage rules are not applicable for maids who work just for about 1-2 hrs in a day with one employer. In my house, my maids do not work for more than an hour each day. Daily wage rules can be applied to a full time maid only.
    The latest daily wage for unskilled worker in Delhi is 513/- and for semi skilled it is 565/- which translates to less than 70/hr for an eight hr work schedule or 2100/- for 30 hrs. Most maids are earning more than that in Delhi.
     
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  7. Ankit Kumar 001

    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    Stone pelting , and threat to rape and murder ??? Different things.

    If You are rich[upper middle class] , simply invest in a double barrel shot gun[if super rich, M16 copies are also available in Munger, Bihar] .

    It's enough to blow up almost everyone who will be standing in the corridor of your apartment gate, at once.

    And also don't fear police, if you can invest in illegal arms, you also have the means to ensure its usage in self defence doesn't cause any action against you.

    And the most important thing, maintain good relations with your neighbours.
     
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  8. A_poster

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    Owning guns without licence would get people arrested.Arms act in India is most draconian act that there is.


    I do not have a maid.My family do not have a maid (too poor to have one). But in a labour surplus country like India, if domestic help culture is curtailed, who would employ those domestic helps.

    Again, you could be arrested for owning a M16.

    If you are super rich, why not join a shooting club and own rifles and pistols legally, rather than buying counterfeit one which could get you arrested.
     
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  9. Anish

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    Getting a weapon license in urban India is very tough without a court order which states you have threat to your life/family life/property.

    I know many people who are very well off and for fun sake want to keep a rifle but local Police always rejects application and bribe out of question
     
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    Ankit Kumar 001 Major Technical Analyst

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    You won't get anything more than OFB air guns and some pistols and revolvers under licence.And they are useless, pretty much useless. We had one revolver and it gave up after firing not more than 10-12 round.

    As for being arrested, in the first place isn't the illegals worth being arrested ? If that doesn't happen , you , do have the right to ensure the safety of your family.

    Because God forbid, if time comes , its not the police which will come in to aid you, but your "illegal " arms !
     
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    The problem with Bangladeshi illegals is that first they go to West Bengal then to other parts of India.

    When confronted by police in other parts of India they state their origin as the place they went to in West Bengal thus becoming West Bengali thus becoming Indians.

    Now Indians of course cannot be deported to Bangladesh,

    In Delhi there are 1000's of e-rickshaws which have come up overnight. They are almost exclusively the domain of illegal Bangladeshis.
     
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    The arms you get from licensing are of very bad quality, but if you are member of a shooting club, you could import better quality weapon ,under the pretext of shooting practice. Memberships are hard to come by (and involve bribes), but it is better than running risk of getting arrested or ending up with a dud.

    Else, you could also join an Archery club (easier.Here you could simply walk in and get registered) and own Bow-Arrow and Crossbows. They need more practice than guns,but they are quite efficacious. A crossbow bolt could go through bulletproof vest.
     
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    And they all have been supported by AAP and Khangrass. These people let their women work as domestic helps and after some time they rob those very houses as the maids are able to generate full information about the family and at times even get the keys to the house.
     
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  14. Anish

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    Yes sir that's the problem.

    We all know about it and yet are not doing anything about it.

    The women are in domestic help sector
    The men are in transport, construction, non specialised menial work.
    The children are begging or in madrasas.

    The police is getting fat taking bribes.

    The politicians are allowing symbolic stones in Ayodhya and fooling the public for votes.
     
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    That's another way. And people should look to that option too.

    But as I said , in this part of country, untill you are carrying weapons in public , I have never came across a person getting police at his house for illegal arms.

    And this is one effective way, which has actually helped my family protect our property , so I advised people, who have good relations with the neighbours [because they are the only way police can know of arms ] , and can pay ~50k to 80k , get a rifle or a pistol.
     
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