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Not to Over Invite the Japanese

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  1. CountryFirst2

    CountryFirst2 Lieutenant SENIOR MEMBER

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    This thread is dedicated to the dangers posed by inviting Japanese and lays out the reason for not over-inviting them in.
     
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    Yakuza (ヤクザ?, [jaꜜkuza]), also known as gokudō (極道?), are members of transnational organized crime syndicates originating in Japan. The Japanese police, and media by request of the police, call them bōryokudan (暴力団?, "violence group"), while the yakuza call themselves "ninkyō dantai" (任侠団体 or 仁侠団体?, "chivalrous organizations"). The yakuza are notorious for their strict codes of conduct and very organized nature. They have a large presence in the Japanese media and operate internationally with an estimated 103,000 members.[2] Yakuza is the world's largest criminal organization.
     
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    Andaman & Nicobar islands 3 year occupation by Japanese and how they were no different than the British:

    The first victim of the occupation came on the fourth day after the Japanese landings. Angered by soldiers who had pursued some chickens into his house, a young man called Zulfiqar Ali fired an airgun at them. No-one was hurt, but he was forced into hiding. After twenty-four hours he was captured and marched to the maidan in front of the Browning Club. Here his arms were twisted until they broke, and he was then shot. A cement memorial now stands on the spot.[5] In the early days of the occupation local intellectuals (mostly officials and doctors) were encouraged to join Rash Behari Bose's Indian Independence League, and a 'Peace Committee' was formed from its members, headed by Dr. Diwan Singh. Over the next few months they did what they could to mitigate the suffering of the population at the hands of the Japanese, but to little avail: indeed, many of them would later fall victim themselves. In any case, there was little any of them could have done to save Major A.G. Bird, who had not been sent to Rangoon or Singapore like the other British captives, and of whom the Japanese were determined to make an example. Pushkar Bakshi persuaded a fellow convict, Sarup Ram, to bear witness at Bird's 'trial' that he had been spying (wireless parts had been planted in the house where he was imprisoned). It has been suggested that Bakshi had a grudge against Bird for having given him a six-month sentence for theft before the Japanese invasion.[citation needed] According to eyewitnesses Bird, a popular man known as "Chirrie" ('Bird' in Hindi) had his arms and legs twisted and broken, and was then beheaded by Colonel Bucho with his sword.[6][7]

    Meanwhile, local women were being 'recruited' by Bakshi to act as "comfort women" for the Japanese garrison,[citation needed] although discontent meant that subsequently Korean and Malay women were brought in instead. Forced labour was used to build a new airport, and in October 1942 mass arrests of 'spies' took place, with 300 people being confined in the Cellular Jail, where some were tortured. Of these seven were shot, including Narayan Rao, who had been Superintendent of Police under Japanese auspices, Itter Singh, the Deputy Superintendent, Subedar Sube Singh of the Military Police and Dr. Surinder Nag. Realising that the Japanese were targeting influential members of the population, the members of the Indian Independence League grew increasingly nervous, and ceased to engage in much nationalist activity.[8] In 1943 a second reign of terror was unleashed by the new commander of the garrison, Colonel Jochi Renusakai, & Chief of Police Mitsubashi, both of whom had served at Nanking. 600 people were arrested and tortured, including Dr. Diwan Singh, who died as a result of his injuries. At this stage the Japanese decided that Bakshi was no longer useful, and he was imprisoned.[9]
     
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    Andaman & Nicobar islands 3 year occupation by Japanese:


    The first victim of the occupation came on the fourth day after the Japanese landings. Angered by soldiers who had pursued some chickens into his house, a young man called Zulfiqar Ali fired an airgun at them. No-one was hurt, but he was forced into hiding. After twenty-four hours he was captured and marched to the maidan in front of the Browning Club. Here his arms were twisted until they broke, and he was then shot. A cement memorial now stands on the spot.[5] In the early days of the occupation local intellectuals (mostly officials and doctors) were encouraged to join Rash Behari Bose's Indian Independence League, and a 'Peace Committee' was formed from its members, headed by Dr. Diwan Singh. Over the next few months they did what they could to mitigate the suffering of the population at the hands of the Japanese, but to little avail: indeed, many of them would later fall victim themselves. In any case, there was little any of them could have done to save Major A.G. Bird, who had not been sent to Rangoon or Singapore like the other British captives, and of whom the Japanese were determined to make an example. Pushkar Bakshi persuaded a fellow convict, Sarup Ram, to bear witness at Bird's 'trial' that he had been spying (wireless parts had been planted in the house where he was imprisoned). It has been suggested that Bakshi had a grudge against Bird for having given him a six-month sentence for theft before the Japanese invasion.[citation needed] According to eyewitnesses Bird, a popular man known as "Chirrie" ('Bird' in Hindi) had his arms and legs twisted and broken, and was then beheaded by Colonel Bucho with his sword.[6][7]

    Meanwhile, local women were being 'recruited' by Bakshi to act as "comfort women" for the Japanese garrison,[citation needed] although discontent meant that subsequently Korean and Malay women were brought in instead. Forced labour was used to build a new airport, and in October 1942 mass arrests of 'spies' took place, with 300 people being confined in the Cellular Jail, where some were tortured. Of these seven were shot, including Narayan Rao, who had been Superintendent of Police under Japanese auspices, Itter Singh, the Deputy Superintendent, Subedar Sube Singh of the Military Police and Dr. Surinder Nag. Realising that the Japanese were targeting influential members of the population, the members of the Indian Independence League grew increasingly nervous, and ceased to engage in much nationalist activity.[8] In 1943 a second reign of terror was unleashed by the new commander of the garrison, Colonel Jochi Renusakai, & Chief of Police Mitsubashi, both of whom had served at Nanking. 600 people were arrested and tortured, including Dr. Diwan Singh, who died as a result of his injuries. At this stage the Japanese decided that Bakshi was no longer useful, and he was imprisoned.[9]
     
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    Torture methods against Indians (Netaji didn't know; was misinformed) by Japanese imperial forces during 3 year occupation of Andaman & Nicobar islands

    Shiver runs through the spines of those who underwent the torture in the hands of the Japanese just at the mention of those days. Their fingers do not grow normal nails till date.
    Red hot pins were forced under their nails. Knee, shoulder, elbow joints used to be hit with rods, testicles were crushed, penis burnt with cigarette butts.
     
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    I don't think there are any perfect allies; but on-the-whole, Japan is today a model of industrial and social development among Asian democracies, and I believe there are mutual interests and commonalities that would make Russians and Japanese natural allies.

    Your point that India should try and avoid as a rule reliance and dependance on foreign support in military and industry is a respectable one, however.
    I don't think that will help greatly however until India has a government that can properly support indigenization of industry supply lines.
     
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    I didn't say keep the japanese out, I'm just afraid Congress is going to over-invite them. Congress politicians are idiots. BJP doesn't know much about Japan.

    About Japan being industrialised, true. But Japan being socially upward, no. There's alot of counter-media propaganda being done, that's why we don't hear that news.

    I believe nations should be more disciplined. And interact with each other as proper nations instead of all the 'people-to-people' or tourism rubbish.

    There are good japanese companies. But there are also bad violent ones. Same is what we see in our nation? No. Japanese are very organised and disciplined - both the good ones and the bad ones. That makes over-inviting them too dangerous.

    The Yakuza for example has a strong international front, has been surviving for 300 or more years, and has infiltrated their govt, companies, etc. They have dangerous capability, mobilization and logistics.

    We have to be guarded in approach, but Congress as always is going to make mistakes.
     
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    Don't worry about it. The Japanese today will not even hurt a fly. The only trouble with Japan today is its history, which poses great difficulty to be on friendly terms with Asia. If India holds Japan's hands then it would be a good example for peaceful relations in Asia.
     
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    I have just one word to say about today's Japan

    Kawaii !!!!
     
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    [​IMG]

    i was intrigued by the idea of adding decals of cute girls to gunships.

    to improve squad morale, of course.

    or, maybe it was to reduce squad morale...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aaOZrNWqLU#t=34
     
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    who cares as long as its Kawaii !!!!

    In present day's Japanese Culture
    its more important to look Cute than Cool

    Oh and BTW, that's a Cobra AH-1 attack helicopter
     
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    While the decals were probably just for PR, the attraction is in the juxtaposition of cute with cool.

    Cute is typically associated with defenselessness, so to have something that is contrastingly cute and powerful / deadly is of course sort of absurd and ultimately amusing.

    Or maybe this is what happens to a martial culture after it has been effectively castrated by the US. Perhaps in a generation we will have Afghanistanimation?
     
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    no one is a saint
     
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    That is not an excuse for not being guarded.
     
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    Let them make a decent TV serial
    We can talk about Afghan Animation later :troll:
     
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