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Number Of Martyred troops cant be disclosed - Senate told

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by nair, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. nair

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    Number Of Martyred troops cant be disclosed - Senate told

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1337974/number-of-martyred-troops-cant-be-disclosed-senate-told

    ISLAMABAD: After a minister’s hesitation to share the number of Pakistani troops who laid down their lives in recent incidents of Indian firing from across the Line of Control (LoC), Senate Chairman Mian Raza Rabbani on Tuesday held that no information could be withheld from parliament.

    Minister of State for Water and Power Abid Sher Ali informed the house that as many as 66 civilians had been killed and 288 injured as a result of unprovoked Indian firing from across the LoC, but the number of army troops martyred could not be disclosed due to security reasons.

    We do not want our enemy to know how many soldiers laid down their lives,” he said.

    The minister said a letter had been written to the General Headquarters, seeking more details which were expected to be available in a couple of days.

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    The chairman said the calling attention notice on the matter had appeared on the agenda on Tuesday but it had been with the Senate secretariat for several days and the information should have come by now.

    “Will the order of parliament prevail or that of the Ministry of Defence or GHQ?” he asked.


    Stressing that no information could be concealed from parliament, he said if the government wanted, the session could be declared in-camera when it would be shared.

    He said parliament was supreme and he could not allow hiding of information from the forum.

    The chairman ordered that the information be provided to the house during the current session.

    He said that if any matter of national security was involved, there were two options: either an in-camera session could be held or the information submitted to the office of the Senate chairman where the members could go through it.

    Senator Ateeq Sheikh of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement had moved the notice to draw the government’s attention towards the loss of precious lives of Pakistani citizens in the Indian firing.

    Afghan border

    Speaking on an adjournment motion about firing on a census team by Afghan security personnel, Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed of the PML-Q said Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi wanted to use Afghan soil to create instability in Pakistan.

    He said the United States was pursuing a dual policy on Afghanistan. He recalled that there had been representation of the Haqqani network in a meeting held in Murree where representatives from the United States, China and Afghanistan met the Taliban. He said warlord Gulbadin Hekmatyar had joined the Qaumi Ittehad (national unity) Government in Afghanistan.

    “What is the harm in a dialogue with Taliban and the Haqqani network?” he asked.

    The senator said Afghan President Ashraf Ghani had talked of opening a Taliban office in Afghanistan. The Afghan Taliban also had an office in Doha where the US had the largest base, but it kept on pressuring Pakistan, he said.

    He said the US had met failure in Afghanistan and now it needed a scapegoat with its eyes focused on Pakistan.

    He was of the view that Pakistan should appoint a special representative for Afghanistan.

    Senator Hafiz Hamdullah of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl criticised the policy of closing the Chaman and Torkham borders on the plea that they were used by the Afghan National Directorate of Security (NDS) and Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) agents to find their way into Pakistan.

    He pointed out that the border with Afghanistan was 2,900km long with many small crossing points and the NDS and RAW people could also use them enter the country. He said the economy of Chaman was linked with the border and its closure was tantamount to punishing the people of the town.

    Senator Taj Haider of the PPP said terrorists were a common enemy of Pakistan and Afghanistan and called for joint action against them so that they could not find shelter anywhere. He said economic relations were essential for peace, which could not be achieved by closing the border.
     
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  2. nair

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    Actually they do not want their own citizen to know..... PA is most trustworthy after god (for some before)
     
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  3. Ankit Kumar 001

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    Pretty much sums up the huge losses they are taking.

    The second thing is , that nothing beats the morale of a soldier , more than the sacrifice of his fellow soldier going unrecognised , and knowing that the same will happen to them too.
     
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    hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhaha
    Nothing to say.
     
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    Dagger 2nd Lieutant FULL MEMBER

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    Lol.. wtf accountability.. they are just afraid nobody would join the army if they know their true life expectancy.. talk about a banana country.. "cannot reveal who dies"
     
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    There were no losses. All losses were civilian. Even the losses were resurrected because of divine intervention. In fact, the soldiers who did die, were due to bus overturning or slipping on banana and falling. Mard-e-momins do not die to Indian fire, you imbeciles. And since, DGISPR said this, it is the truth. Just like Kargil, Osama, 1971 and on an on and on.

    On a serious note, we should start serious 'moral' support to Balochi and Sindh nationalists. Let the ISI spend more time fighting internal horrors. Death by a thousand farts.
     
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    Of course they hide. Remember the hindu soldier who died at mangla front (nowshera) on the 17th? When questioned they started claiming waziristan. When asked ok show news from the 17th for waziristan atleast - CRICKETS!!!!!

    Or the months long zero loss zero injury period last month when India was losing many soldiers? They were claiming pakistani troops are battle hardened. What does that mean, bullets and shrapnel gets deflected off their hardened skin?
     
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    very unfortunate for there army men to die like ordinary civilians , even there death is not hided by there families
     
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    Actually after God & Khujli.
     
  10. nair

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    This is far better..... It is always better to be called a civilian than a terrorists or a mujaheddin..... Morale can be always improved by saying you are fighting a "Hindu" a Kaffur.....
     
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    Lol i think its only India that tells everything to its people, i think theit casualties are more than our 4000+ figures, maybe 10000+ KIA :drag:
     
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    PA fatal Casualties since September 2016 are between 40-50
     
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    Security reasons?
    What security reasons?:lol:

    PA is thriving in that nation with retarded logic because of the their so called invincibility that cant kill by evil baniyas .
    Now we can understand ,Our Forces are giving damning damage to their facilities and soldiers .

    Such a world failure
     
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    Only in Banana Republic that a soldier dies a civilian death in battle. What a way to mock the ultimate sacrifice of a soldier. And Indians lecture other Indians about respecting this ragtag militia known as PA, whose soldiers convert to be a terrorist or civilian in their deaths. The sole motive and war cry of this militia is to kill Hindus and wage religious war, no better than those IS and Taliban scums. I won't be surprised if these so called soldiers join IS ranks in the future.
     
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    Reading this articles remind me of this old Video how NLI Mostly shia Soldiers were Left To die And Not even accepted formally

     
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