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Outrage over reviews of new Gandhi book

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  1. Sid

    Sid Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    NEW DELHI: Thousands of books have been written on Mahatma Gandhi with each new one claiming to have discovered an unknown facet of his eventful life. When reviews of Pulitzer prize winner Joseph Lelyveld's "Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi and His Struggle with India" hit the newspapers in England and US claiming that the book says Gandhi was a bisexual and had a German-Jewish bodybuilder lover in Hermann Kallenbach it created immediate sensation.

    But as the Daily Mail's review of the book created a storm in cyberspace, there was a barrage of protests not just from Gandhians who said this was "blasphemy", but from the book's author himself who denied having suggested anything of the sort.

    Lelyveld told TOI, "I do not allege that Gandhi is a racist or bisexual in 'Great Soul'. The word 'bisexual' nowhere appears in the book." He also denied having called Gandhi a racist. "The word 'racist' is used once to characterise comments by Gandhi early in his stay in South Africa, part of a chapter summarising his statements about Africans and his relations with them. The chapter in no way concludes that he was a racist or offers any suggestion of it."

    Psychoanalyst Sudhir Kakar, one of the first to write on Gandhi's sexuality in 'Intimate Relations: Exploring Indian Sexuality' and later in 'Mira and Mahatma', is yet to read the book but has gone through an ocean of archives on Gandhi and says he never discovered anything that the reviewers claim the book consists of.

    Kakar remembers finding references to Kallenbach during his research but not the way the reviewers have portrayed it. He says if the book has what reviewers claim then it is plain "stupid." "Gandhi always talked of complete love but it was of platonic kind," he says. Another eminent modern India historian who has read the book said, "The reviews are by Churchill fans and rightwingers." The Mahatma's grandson Gopal Gandhi said, "I will not comment till I read the book."

    But Gandhian scholar Tridip Suhrud, author of books like 'The Autobiography of The Story of My Experiments With Truth' not only interacted with Lelyveld when he was researching the book but has also read it. He is aghast with the reviews and swears by Lelyveld. Suhrud says the section on Kallenbach begins with a quote from him.

    "Lelyveld asks me what I think of Gandhi's relationship with Kallenbach and I say, 'It is almost like a couple'. The two had a deep bond that borders on attraction of platonic kind. Joseph is not talking about what the reviewers are claiming," Suhrud says. He explains that in the late 19th century and early 20th century men addressed each other in a way that can be construed now as lovers.

    He gives the instance of letters between Rabindranath Tagore and CF Andrews. "Andrews wrote to Tagore in a manner that might raise eyebrows today. But the context was different then as also the usage of words. Tagore addressed him as Charlie," Suhrud says. He also says reviewers claim that the book portrays Gandhi as a racist is factually incorrect. In fact, he says, the book chronicles his work with Zulus as well during the Boer War where he took up the cause of the blacks.

    Suhrud goes on to give full marks to Lelyveld and the book. He says it is the first political biography of Gandhi by an expert on apartheid. "It is a fascinating work. Lelyveld shows there is continuity in Gandhi as well as major points of departure. Gandhi of South Africa was not the same as Gandhi of Sabarmati ashram. And Gandhi of Sabarmati was not the same after Dandi March." Lelyveld agrees: "The aim of 'Great Soul' is to sift the evidence and facts of Gandhi's life and discuss them in a careful, responsible and balanced way."


    Outrage over reviews of new Gandhi book - The Times of India
     
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    Now, lets see if the moderators are going to delete the thread once again..
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    This Outrage is very Justified!!!!!!!
    Slandering National Icon should not be permitted.
     
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    National Icons should not be considered free from criticism.
     
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    Hey Moderators, If ever you are going to delete this thread, do let me know beforehand.
     
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    Do you know the difference between slander and criticism?

    And what is your fascination with discussing sexual escapades of political figures? I don't think anyone here would have a problem if you were discussing Gandhi or Nehru's policies, but you keep insisting on discussing their sex life instead.
     
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    Sid Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I am not its dailymail.uk.

    I just took the liberty of posting it here on IDF.

    If you don't want to discuss on this issue, keep out of it.
     
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    For someone who is on a "discussion forum" you are quite at a loss as to answer a simple question as to why are you so interested in sex lives of other people?

    I just want to know what makes this news report worthy of discussion, I am sure you have some reasoning behind your actions. Mind sharing?
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    National Icons Must Not be Slandered by some 2 cent writer!!!!
     
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    Sid Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    I am not short of words, I am just telling you the easy way to ignore something which you don't like.

    Do you have something to say related to the topic?
     
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    Sid Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    What is the criteria for calling someone a 2 cent writer?

    What is the benchmark? And above all, YOU are saying something which you don't know about. Going by your knowledge, I can easily figure out that the only books you have read are your textbooks.
     
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    RoYaN Lt. Colonel ELITE MEMBER

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    A writer who tries to gain popularity by slandering public figures of great repute!!
     
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    Sid Captain SENIOR MEMBER

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    lolz!!

    Going by your definition, any book which got sensationalized means that it was author's attempt to gain fame and popularity.

    That means Salman Rushdie wrote Satanic Verses fully knowing that it is going to create furore in the Islamic world providing him cheap popularity.

    Same is the case with Taslima Nasreen I wonder.
     
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    The author got what he want....PUBLICITY. It's obvious no one would care a RAT'S ASS if he would write about his or his wife's extra marital affairs.

    ALMOST! now that changes the entire meaning right?!!


    Btw what pleasure do u get by posting such threads on national leaders?

    I'm expecting the following threads from u, to name a few:

    1. Rajiv Gandhi's Sri Lanka inclination.

    2. Rahul's Venezuelan/Spanish gf.

    3. Sonia Gandhi and Madhav Rao Scindia.

    4. Sanjay and Maneka's pre-marital relation.

    etc...


    ....the list goes on, I know u will google abt things.

    :cheesy:
     
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